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Post by reyknow on Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:03 pm



video na nirelease ng wikileaks na ayaw ipakita sa mainstream media.
sa 9:30 may isang lalaki na tinutulungan yung mga wounded, tapos bigla nalang pinagbabaril
tapos magtataka ka na si tiger woods parin ang main na balita sa cnn...
kailangan na makita to ng marami.

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by reyknow on Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:10 pm

wrote:To be brief, the debate was about the morality of having U.S. troops continue to be garrisoned in Iraq and Afghanistan. I took to the mic and pointed out that we should not have been there in the first place, and that the ONLY sane, legal, and moral thing to do was get out. A young soldier in the audience stood up to protest my position using the standard boilerplate sloganeering we’ve come to expect from the Cheney-O’Reilly-Hannity-Limbaugh-Beck crowd. At the end his tirade which included Neocon gems like “I fight for your freedom” and “we’re there so we won’t have to fight them here,” I offered the young warrior the chance to give me the name of the group who was trying to take my “freedom” away from me. He stumbled for a moment, then (almost shouting) stated “those people hate you and would as soon cut your throat as look at you.” I told him my question was “who was trying to take my freedom from me,” NOT “who was trying to cut my throat.” He then said “are you going to let them get away with 9-11″? I replied, “who is THEM, young man?” I told him, “if you are suggesting the Iraqis had anything to do with 9-11 then you are woefully misinformed.” After going back and forth trading salvos (actually, it was just about me debunking one boilerplate statement after another), he really got my ire by grabbing the collar of his shirt and stated “It’s people like you who disgrace MY uniform.”

At this point, I never had so much clarity descend upon me. It was like some power reached into my brain and told me what to say. Without even thinking, I said, ”Let me tell you something, SON! I know ALL about the service, even if I was never in it myself. My entire family on both sides has served in a military at one time or another. Both sides of my family fought for the Confederacy, my grandfather fought in France in WWI, My father was a decorated Marine, and my Uncle is a Bataan Death March survivor. So, I’m no stranger to the military. However, I can tell you this, you are ALL WET about WHOSE uniform that is and WHAT IT MEANS! My father, who was a peaceful and gentle man, came home from WWII with the Navy Cross and a revulsion of war — as did my uncle. They both became staunch advocates of non-interventionism and a belief that to defend your own shores is the highest calling. Anything else is simply premeditated warmongering. I learned many things from my father, but the most important thing he ever told me about being a soldier was this…,and I’m going to pass it along to you.


That uniform you wear is MINE! I ALLOW you to wear in on MY BEHALF. It belongs to ME and represents MY WISHES. If you DISHONOR IT, you dishonor ME! And if I SAY you DISHONOR it, then there is no question YOU HAVE. Every deed you do while in MY uniform reflects on ME, either GOOD or BAD. And, if you deny anything I just said, then you are NOT an ‘American Soldier!’

I did not enjoy putting this kid in his place, but I have seen this swaggering demand that “our” troops have for our unconditional and fawning deification of the military. I respect the military and those who serve to a point. After that, however, they must earn any additional respect. And, so far, “our boys” have lost mine

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/54990.html

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by dpyxl on Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:43 pm

what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

we can relate it to our local media, specially this season of fools.. election time.

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by cloud20 on Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:40 pm

And this is how they"police"the world.


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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by reyknow on Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:48 pm

@dpyxl
i disagree, mas mabigat na topic to kumpara sa nangyayari sa local scene.

@cloud20
onga eh, parang sila pa nga yung nagteterrorize sa mundo eh

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by whey09 on Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:55 pm

thanks for sharing bro, i personally thought that amercian soldiers, pilots, marines, etc are properly trained on not commit mistakes, pero yung nagyari is purely human mistake and ang kapalit ay mga inosenteng buhay,,,tsk tsk tsk

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by reyknow on Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:04 pm

@whey
the thing is, the way they sound like in the video, tska the way they responded, tingin ko di ito one time accident, im positive they do this all the time. who knows gano pa karami ang ganitong incidents?

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:59 pm

i agree with pareng reyknow, who knows kung ilang inosenteng buhay na ang nadale nila? hai... ang hearing their reactions, parang nageenjoy pa eh. Mad

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by dpyxl on Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:11 pm

thanks for sharing bro, i personally thought that amercian soldiers, pilots, marines, etc are properly trained on not commit mistakes, pero yung nagyari is purely human mistake and ang kapalit ay mga inosenteng buhay,,,tsk tsk tsk

look like the US army playing too much games today, CoD:Modern Warfare here, i might be ridiculous, but its true, mostly they've spend time playing this violent games as test field, in this video it shows how thirsty they really are.. this is just plain stupidity in the part of the US army to mistaking a camera for an RPG or ak47, no reconnaissance or what-so-ever, no rules of engagement, even if they declare this under fog of war, this is pure blood bath in the self-brew war they created.

@reyknow
i only pertaining to the thread title, sorry to confuse you, anyway there are more secrets they've still hide to the public.. it may sound like the x-files or zeitgeist thingy, yet compares to the 911 conspiracy or just like the 2007 winning oscar documentary; "Taxi to the dark side".

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by cloud20 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:33 pm

master dpyxl; share naman ng links...

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Post by kurdaps! on Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:11 pm

ive been following this clip for days now....all the story on the news are the same. the FBI even said that this could be 99% legit. tsk tsk

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by cloud20 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:38 am

I can never, ever, get myself to believe that the attacking soldiers, with all the most sophisticated instruments for war in the world, could not see the CAMERAS slung over the shoulders of the two mediamen. They couldn't have mistaken them for guns.

BLOODLUST, plain & simple. They were even urging the crawling bloody on the ground to "c'mon body, all ya gotta do is pick up a gun" just so they can riddle his body with more bullets.

Oh, before we forget, this their primary product sold in the market; warfare.

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by dpyxl on Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:29 am

sir cloud20, dpyxl na lang po, ill try post some article and links.

eto how a game imitates life, Call of Duty 4: AC 130 level, at this range, how can you separate the hostile from us, paano pa pag gabi, night vision lang.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAscuD4loh8

sa Fox news at youtube, Wiki-leaks blaming videogames, it may not have a direct link or evidence or study that we can justify it is the source of this behavior, yet its almost the same comparison between porn relates to rape.. it may or it may not, we will never know.

http://kotaku.com/5510188/us-army-accused-of-video-game+like-behavior-in-disturbing-leaked-iraq-war-video

eto link for US army gamers, how they show their sympathy with a broken piece of hardware, show madaming gamer lalo na sa US army. even mga gaming forums madami dun mga naka tag na marines or involve sa field, im not generalized them pero eto lang kasi hobby lalo na sa barracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6pXmERhVcY

sa Hurt Locker, ironically, during conversation with the theraphy doctor and his patient, plays Gears of War, lalo na mga FPS shooter that imitates or depicts realtime war game sa middle-east, Battlefield Company and Call of Duty games notable for being realtime war game.

IMO its like a mental stimulus to always act tough like during encounter, in this case, it's an epic fail

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by reyknow on Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:58 am

@dpyxl

ginagawa lang nilang scapegoat ang videogames para mawalan sila ng responsibilidad sa mga nangyayari.


its a stupid excuse. nagegera na tayo bago pa naimbento ang videogames. tska kung ang arguement nila eh realistic at graphic ang videogames kaya ganun, pano pa kaya ang movies at tv shows? at di lahat ng gamers eh killers din.

its bulls**t, sinusubukan nilang i-switch ang attention ng tao sa censorship ng videogames, tinatakpan nila yung mga totoong issues.

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by dpyxl on Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:45 am

^reyknow
i'm not making my post as a direct excused, it could be or it could be not, this is not raising the blame on videogames or whatsoever, just stating Wikileaks statement last monday when they were interviewed by Fox News a day after this video was released.. as i said before i never generalized all of the troops were driven by games or whatsoever, but what i'm referring is they're actions was too fragile that it seem they were just putting they're judgment to eliminate this suspected insurgent without questioning or interrogating them, and that's a violation of the rules of engagement, which is consider crime against humanity. "it is like a game to them"

here in this statement straight from the head of Wikileaks at 5:00, "it seems like they were playing video games with people lives"
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxjP8J4oST4&feature=related

the real question is this really happening by the daily basis, is this how the troops attitude in dealing with insurgence and the corruption in hiding this failed operation to the public.. to sum it all, Justice to those innocent lives, lives thats will add to the death toll from this war of terror that Bush administration started..

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anyway, based on the title topic thread about what mainstream media which still doesn't care.. its CNN, if you check their site, still its all about Tiger Woods drama or overhype iPad.. CNN is owned by General Electric, which donated millions of dollars for Bush campaign, which almost all the US industry revolves around G.E., from consumer electronics, fuel, power plant and war armory.. this been known since those conspiracy theory brew around the net for decades now.. compare it to our local media, we all know what station i'm referring too..

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Post by reyknow on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:47 am

@dpyxl
yep exactly yung punto ko. im saying they are using videogames as a scapegoat. theyve done this before. marami nang krimen na nangyari na ang na blame eh videogames kasi gamer yung gumawa ng krimen.

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/news/china-violence-drug-addiction-teen-pregnancy-blame-it-on-video-games.html

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/news/teen-kills-adoptive-mother-for-not-paying-internet-bills.html

http://www.qj.net/psp/news/schizophrenic-goes-on-drunken-axe-murder-after-losing-at-fifa-08.html

http://www.qj.net/psp/news/dad-shoots-kills-son-over-missing-video-game.html

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-3/21-year-old-to-spend-life-in-prison-for-murder-over-a-ps2.html

kung nangyayari to on a daily basis, im sure. may nabasa ko na nagtotroll sila after curfew para mamaril ng violators. tska yung ibang sundalo nagdadala ng ak-47s para pag may napatay sila na di armado, i-plant lang nila yung ak, mag take ng picture, tapos move on parang walang nangyari.



lastly, kung compare natin sa local media, ang alam ko lang is ang ABSCBN eh parang co-owner ng meralco? im not sure. tapos basta mga cojuanco tapos may ari din ng san miguel corp?

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Re: what the mainstream media doesnt want to show you

Post by cloud20 on Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:18 pm

Local side; ever wonder why even the first lady president couldn't even announce to the nation about who assassinated his husband? Don't tell me she never found out...

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