PC Specs

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Guys ,

Good day!
Mga bro, ask lang me ng magandang specs ng Computer, Balak ko ng magpalit ng pc sa bahy. Im stil using Amd duron. Max 7 and Cad 2006 pa gamit ko. Whats the best specs ng pc? Availble here sa atin. Tnx.

Verify your mobo first if it can handles 2.2v memories,some motherboard are not supplying 2.2v for memories.

insurgent wrote:Depende sa binili mong ram sir, ung cheap crucial ko ang jedec spec nya 5-5-5-18@1.8v pero EPP (enhanced performance profile) nya 4-4-4-12@2.2v or ddr2-1000 5-5-5-15@2.2v din. So kahit alin sa dalawa gamitin ko, jedec or epp, it's still running the memories within spec, no overclocking just setting the right voltage

Pwede ka pa din namang gumamit ng value ram na ddr2-800, kahit hindi mo ma-aabot ung "tighter" timings may significant increase pa din sa performance dahil ung fsb saka cpu clock tumaas. Ung underwhelming 25% oc ko also gave me ~26% less sa rendering time without tweaking the memory timings.

@sir cadens: simply going to quad core rig (amd/intel) from a duron will give you huge performance gains that you don't need to OC especially if you're uncomfortable with it.

simple comparison nung nag-upgrade ako:

C2D @ 3.2GHz oc'ed = 31m 9.7s render time
C2Q @ 2.4GHz stock = 19m 33.9s render time

Hehe yep pero masyadong mahal ung workstation graphics so palagay ko ok na ung regular gaming cards, ang ginawa ko na lang softmod ko ung lumang 8800 ko into quadro fx 4600 at malaki and difference sa max modeling. As far as I know same architecture sila lagi, ang difference ung driver optimizations saka siguro memory handling.

Also sir ckosio ok lang mobo ko dahil overclocking board talaga to pero much cheaper than the overpriced asus uber boards, mejo luma na nga lang pero wala pang budget para mapalitan.

Na-try ko din magraid, striped and mirror, pero personally ung gains ng raid setup hindi sya enough para gamitin ko 24/7. Ginawa ko na lang storage ung mga extra hdd, lalagyan ng installers saka videos/music. Atleast pag nangati ako magformat ng windows drive di na magcopy copy ng files, di din ako nagpa-partition dahil tatlo naman ung hdd ko sa main pc. Di nagbanggit ng budget si sir cadens, kung sky's the limit suggest ko ung mga SSD, lalo na ung Intel drives kung makakakita ka hehe.

ano un ginamit mo un driver ng quadro??software mode?? parang imposible ata fapz..

magkaiba po ang architecture ng quadro at gaming video card...never nagkapareho un...
hindi rin driver at memory handling lang ang pinagkaiba ng workstation at gaming card..disagree ako dun..try to google it and search the difference. sir kung nagbenchmarking kayo lam nio difference nun. try toms hardware for benchmarking quadro and gaming cards in max..

performance: magmodel ka sa sketchup ng maraming box or highpoly models then enabled shadows makikita mo kapag magrorotate ka ng view nwawala un shadows at hindi smooth ang rotation..kung quadro gamit mo super smooth walang sabit,..nag-7800gt ako hanggang 9800gt then decided to used quadro since tumatanda na tau for gaming hehe!

mura lang po ang quadro..un quadro 370 $129 un quadro570 $150..ang mahal na quadrofx un quadro1700 pataas...

about raid: ano bang rpm ng hard drive na ginamit nio sir?? I raid all my 4 drives into two raid0 at raid1 and its boosting more than WD raptor..

Yep, software mod (softmod) using rivatuner then used a quadro driver, hindi imposible sir pareho lang ng architecture un. Hindi ko naman sinabing magiging quadro na ung card, pero may significant gains sa cad saka max in my case.

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=539

saka sir according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

"Many of these cards use the same chipset as the game- and action-oriented GeForce video cards by NVIDIA. Those cards that are identical to the desktop cards can be "soft-modded" to identify itself as the equivalent Quadro card and this allows optimized drivers intended for the Quadro cards to be installed on the system.[3] While this will not offer anywhere near the performance of the equivalent Quadro card it can improve performance in certain applications."

Nagge-games pa din ako sir so mas ok sakin nug cheaper gaming cards na pwedeng pang max saka games, unlike ung cheap workstation cards na pang max lang tapos di ko na magagamit sa iba, kanya kanya lang naman ng paggagamitan

Nawawala na ung gpuz screens nung softmodded pa ung 8800 ko, post ko dito pag nakita ko ibang card na kasi gamit ko ngayon.

About raid personal preference ko lang na gawin na lang storage ung other drives, ung single digit % gains ng raid di ko din mapapansin masyado

wow.. dami ko natutunan dito ah... post ko ung na kita kong specs... sa core2quad.. patingin po kung ok ha? thanks ng marami

sir kung may time ka tutorial how to do softmod para maincrease at magamit ko un gaming cards ko dito...salamat sa info sir!

and sir hindi po cheap ang workstation cards hehe...un 370 at 570 lang ang cheap..pagapak sa 1700 $500 na un...actually umaabot ng $2000 un quadro..un ung high end na...kung 9800gs mura lang talaga..pero kung GT or GTS or GTX, GX2 etc.the prices are about $400-$500 depende sa edition at production date. You can go to www.newegg.com for pricing (actually sila ang pinakamura ang pricing sa pc parts)para hindi maloko ng mga mapagsamantala dyan sa pinas..

thanks sa info sir!

Sir ckosio may tutorial na dun sa above post, sa techarp. Yep mahal ung mga workstation graphics kaya para sa mga mortal na katulad ko ung gaming na lang hehehe. May mura pero yun ung mga older models.

http://www.techpowerup.com/71086/AMD_Release_FirePro_V8700_&amp_V3750_Professional_Graphics_Cards.html

Newest workstation graphics ng ATI, $200 lang ung lower model tapos $1500 lang ung higher model, competitive prices compared sa usual srp ng mga quadro/firepro.


Edit: May friend ako softmodded ung 8800GTS so humingi ako ng screenshot

salamat sir insurgent very nice having conversation with you..dami ideas at learning process kahit medyo matigas ang ulo ko hehe!

Binalik ko un 8800gts ko subok ko lang.
sir ok un soft-mod nakakasabay un shadow kaso may iwan lang ng konti nagdodouble un shadow sa sketchup pero atleast ok nmn...I can play games and the same time rendering...

No problem sir, atleast nakakatulong ako ng konti. Dami ko na din natutunan sa pagiging lurker dito saka sa 3dp

Sir insurgent, Ckosio,

PAsensya pla di ko nabanggit ang budget ko, Less 20k pla. Very expensive and powerful mga specs u suggest. Dito sa amin province nagpaquote me sa pc shop. very expensive tlga ang core2quad. Pwede n b yung mababang core 2 duo 2.40 ghze4600? Motherboard asus p5vd2, 1GB ddr2667, Asus8500 512mb video card. 160 gb n hardisk. specs n quote sa akin ng sales rep.

Sir pwedeng malaman ung prices ng mga parts na yan, saka kung san ung province kung malayo sa Manila, mukhang luma na masyado ung motherboard model saka mejo luma na din ung proc.

Edit:
Sir sa pchub ako bumibili ng parts and pwede shipping sa kanila http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub

Based sa prices nila saka sa budget mo, pati na din ung available products, ito Intel specs na napagkasya ko:

Foxconn P35AX-S =4030
Intel E5200 2.5GHz =3999
Powercolor 4670 512 =4000
Kinston 2x1GB DDR2-800 =940 x 2 (1880)
HEC 500watts Raptor =2200
WD 640GB WD6400KS =3660
WD 320GB =2500

Pakishare na din ng brand and specs ng power supply mo sir, naglagay ako sa list dahil baka luma na ung psu mo baka di kayanin ung bagong parts. Bale Php19,769 pag ung 640gb na hdd Php18,609 pag 320gb. Pwede mo din bawasan ung memory ng isang stick dagdagan mo na lang pag pwede na.

Alternatives:
kung kelangan talaga bawasan ung price, pero hindi ko talaga mare-recommend to dahil maliit lang ung difference sa prices compared sa performance/features nung more expensive parts

Palit 9500GT 512 =2920
Asus P5KPL-VM =3390
160GB Seagate =2000
Kinston 2x1GB DDR2-667 =880 x 2 (1760)

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sir insurgent pwede na ba tong set up nato? nid ko po ng informtion bout PC set up for rendering. slamat po sir.

processor = intel core2quad Q9300 2.5GHz 1333MHz (6mb)
motherboard = asus P5Kpl-VM
memory = 2gb ddr2 800 kingston
V. card = Palit Daytona GF 8600 GT super 1024mb ddr2 128bit or
asus EAH36501 gb 128 bit
hard disk = seagate 160GB sata
power supply= hec 500W raptor psu

Ok yan sir, pero kung pareho ng prices jan saka dito malaki price difference ng Q6600 sa Q9300. Yung performance nyan sir di nagkakalayo baka hindi sulit ung mas mahal na Q9300, pero kung magkalapit lang presyo ok yan.

Yung video card sir di ko alam kung may benefit ung 1GB na kukunin mo, hindi naman kasi workstation graphics yung model, again kung malaki price difference 512mb na lang suggest ko unless makakita ka ng proof na may benefit sa cad/max ung bigger video memory ng gaming cards, honestly wala akong idea. Mejo maliit din ung HDD.

tnx sa infor sir. ung core2 quad Q9300 2.5GHz =12,470 at ung core2 quad Q6600 2.4GHz=9,170. ung performance ho bah ng 2.4 at 2.5 sir d ng kakalayo? d po bah the higher the Video Card the better pag nagrerender po tayo, tma po ba un sir? Pd ko ba mahingi YM nyo sir? hehehe tnx