32 bit apps on a 64 bit OS???

by cloud20 on Sat May 22, 2010 12:13 pm

"tip po sa USA 64bit na lumalabas na bagong laptop and then mura pa, baka lang po meron kayong kilala although pwede din namang mag-order for shipment. Kapag 64-bit po ang gamit nyo wag po kayong mag-iinstall ng 64-bit na max kase gagamitin nya ung resources nyo di na kayo makakapag-multi task, 32 bit lang ganun din po kapag PC ang gamit nyo(by experience)."

---this statement was made hereabouts; I'm thinking its a bit "misleading". As one friend said; "why would I get a 64bit OS if not for its resources?"...
---but then the benefit of a doubt must be given; what's the general consensus on this?...

errrr... is this the right place to post this?...

by whey09 on Sat May 22, 2010 12:19 pm

im using 64 bit max application on my 64 bit OS,,,wala naman problema,,nakakapag multi task naman ako like nung naka 32 nit OS ako.

by allnem on Sat May 22, 2010 12:33 pm

same here master,,, 64bit os ,,, rendering same time texturing on other file plus cad file open

by pedio84 on Sat May 22, 2010 1:15 pm

your right sir cloud it's a bit misleading, if you install 32 bit program in a 64 bit os it will run like it was installed on a 32 bit os. Very Happy

if your os is 64 bit much better yung ram mo ay 4 GB or more. Very Happy

by andro111985 on Sat May 22, 2010 1:46 pm

siguro gani to yung nangyayari sa laptop ko.. kasi im using 64bit max and os.. with core i3 proccessor and 4gb ram pero kapag nagrerender ako hindi na ako makapagbukas ng another max sobrang bagal na nya.. wala po ba magiging problema sa ram issue sir kapag gumamit ako ng 32bit na max? i mean mari-read po ba nya yung 4gb ram ko even im using 32bit max only? TIA

by arkiedmund on Sat May 22, 2010 1:52 pm

I'm using a 64bit OS, and a 64bit application, but i can still browse the internet, and open my messenger. And I am running only on a quad core system. It slows down a bit, specially during render time, but still i can do some other stuff.

But probably if I am rendering out an animation, I will just leave my 3ds max open, while the rest of the other apps are closed.

There should be no problem with that, it's probably has something to do with your configuration or the apps and OS you are using....

by SunDance on Sat May 22, 2010 1:55 pm

it's a bit confusing, why would i buy a cheeseburger if i do not intend to eat the cheese that comes with it.... scratch

by rangalua on Sat May 22, 2010 2:06 pm

I have 64 bit & 32 bit 3dsmax in an 64 bit OS...

Naranasan ko I have a max scene with larger polygons count:
with the same settings in vray inopen ko sa 64 & 32 bit 3ds max.

Pag sa 64 bit 3ds max naopen yung file halos di na ako makausad to modify my scene sobrang bagal sa viewport.

Pag sa 32 bit 3ds max naopen yung file swabe ang galaw...madaling mag-edit ng scene sa viewport

But the broblem is pag nagrender na ako sa 64 bit 3ds max tuloy tuloy..
sa 32 bit 3ds max naman nagkacrash ang application.

Ngayon: 64 bit 3ds max nalang nakainstall sa PC ko...Ayos na.

by cloud20 on Sun May 23, 2010 11:10 am

Besides I'll be getting 64 bits FOR my design apps, not for multitasking on farmville or what not... I just wish people would be more careful with unsolicited advices...

by Galaites07 on Sun May 23, 2010 11:52 am

oops nakarating na pala kung saan tong 32bit max sa 64OS.

-to all, info lang that this is my unsolicited advice from one of my thread to a certain memeber.

-only question is do you need more than 3.3 gig assign to your max rendering or do you have more than 3.3 gig intstalled physical ram on your 64 bit OS machine.

-of course MR. Bill gates will not discuss the great use of 32 bit software installed on a 64 bit because they will not be able to sell 64 bit programes they created.

- this comment I made indicating (by experience) if you like to try, try if not leave it. There is no harm in installing 32 bit/64 bit as we mostly install un-authorize copy(or its just me).

- be observant of how much ram does your rendering is taking and decide later.

-great post sir cloud

by Galaites07 on Sun May 23, 2010 12:04 pm

by cloud20 on Sun May 23, 2010 5:52 pm

Galaites07 wrote:oops nakarating na pala kung saan tong 32bit max sa 64OS.

-to all, info lang that this is my unsolicited advice from one of my thread to a certain memeber.

-only question is do you need more than 3.3 gig assign to your max rendering or do you have more than 3.3 gig intstalled physical ram on your 64 bit OS machine. ---of course I do need more than 3.3 gigs, I'll take a million please, if I could have them. Why? To keep abreast with the newest tech coming out. Is anyone still rendering with their pentium2's & 32 mb's of ram? Sure I could dish out a few with my 3.3's. Imagine what 12 could do for me. More production equals more profits, I don't think anybody could argue with that. Look around you, everyone's crying that their renders suck because "ito lang kasi nakayanan ng rig ko low settings lang mahina kasi rig ko"... Sure there are workarounds, but 12gigs is 12gigs man... Don't tell me you don't want it... Now supposing you have your 12gigs whatcha gonna do with it; watch it sit in your table while using your 32bit app on a 64 bit program? Your 32bit app will never recognize the extra 9 or so gigs wasting on your unit... Question answered?... Without being cryptic about it?...

-of course MR. Bill gates will not discuss the great use of 32 bit software installed on a 64 bit because they will not be able to sell 64 bit programes they created.---but you yourself said that it's great to install 32bit apps on a 64bit OS because by jeeliweekers, you can multitask!!! So everyone grab your copy of the 64bit OS because hey! you can supermultitask on this with just your 32bit apps!!! What a great deal huh!!! You don't have to buy 64 bit software just use your existing 32 bit apps!!! That would be Gates' selling pitch because he'd be targeting the 64bit AND the 32bit crowd. Most 32bit apps work on 64 anyways. And, if as you say Gates won't discuss it, its a hacker community out there, nothing is sacred to these guys they'll find out even BEFORE an app is released. And thanks to the internet, you'll find out too... So bye-bye "top secret"...

- this comment I made indicating (by experience) if you like to try, try if not leave it. There is no harm in installing 32 bit/64 bit as we mostly install un-authorize copy(or its just me).---the harm comes when the advised listens & it impedes their production... specially when the advise itself goes contrary to popular & logical explanation... Perhaps your comment would've been more use on other sites where they favor multitasking from being able to produce quality renderings in the least time possible so they can go on to the next render which is the norm on this site... Upside is, well, now you can farmville all you want for the rest of the day. Me, I'd rather hone my skills...

- be observant of how much ram does your rendering is taking and decide later.---enlighten me then; which will help me produce more: 3.3gigs or 12 gigs?...

-great post sir cloud---and great answer sir galaites; but still wanting...

by cloud20 on Sun May 23, 2010 5:52 pm

by Galaites07 on Mon May 24, 2010 6:03 am

for someone who doenst still have the 12gig ram 64 bit machine, I will not take any advice from you (no offense).

I was using 64bit OS 2.2 gig processor and 8 gig of RAM. I say try/ recommend go for 32 bit max on 64 bit OS (no harm done). With the consideration to be observant of how much ram does your rendering is taking and decide later.

multi task for me means opening max/rendering one or two/ photoshop/Illustrator/ Outlook/ internet(thats include cgpinoy/evermotion)/ in one a time and browsing explorer plus continious downloads. Coz that what I need to do work/personal.

I am still innocent until proven that you max the use of 12gig ram on your rendering.

And I say my statement works for me until now and I have no problem with it.

So whats your point. Prove it first before you complain or disagree. And I dont buy the explanation anywhere else, info from web/documentation/hacker cause I already have the machine. Very simple to understand.

The statement is not a hearsay/ its a fact and If you or anyone doenst want to buy the fact, so it will be and I have no problem with it.

by edosayla on Mon May 24, 2010 8:06 am

Sir regarding naman sa RAM it doesn't really have anything to do with your rendering speed besides the compiling of your scene just before the actual "Rendering" process. if you look at Render Farms, what they are comprised of are a series of Servers with multiple processors in each. The more processing power you have, the faster your computer will render.

we just need to use the 64bit max para lng po ma access natin ng full ang resources natin 4GB , 6GB or 12GB .. if your talking about multitasking again don't get me wrong it all depends on the processor speed .. if your using a pentium D processor for example vs XEON processor of course iba ang masasabi mong multitask..

32 bit softwares are design for 32 bit operating system but it can be run also on 64bit , but i would suggest using 64bit software on 64bit OS .. to get its full potential .. Hope naka help ...

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