Pilipino CG Artist, are we behind in this industries?

Indian artist-they work with walt disney (thinkerbell and more)
Korean artist-disney channel (Dibo the gift dragon)
Malaysian artist-disney channel (upin and ipin, also have their own full length 3d movies where "upin and ipin" got thier debut)

I also read an old blog: http://rmsgentlewind.multiply.com/journal/item/19

I know that there are many talented cg pilipino, but where are they? they work in architectural firm here and abroad as ofw, work as a layout artist in advertising firm or web design company and so on.....why don't we consider that cg is serous job.

opinion lang po....

yap, I agree with you, a lot of cg artist i saw here in cgpinoy are actually greate and excelent in thier work and keep on improving, hoping sana mag continue so that we can be regonize.

I also have a who in animation company( matahari), the problem i think is the price, aside from maraming available sa india is mura pa ang lobor cost nila but i nterms of skills and qulity of work we can still compete with them.

and of course we need a big break and the company that will give a break for the pilipino artist.

hernandoloto wrote:yap, I agree with you, a lot of cg artist i saw here in cgpinoy are actually greate and excelent in thier work and keep on improving, hoping sana mag continue so that we can be regonize.

I also have a who in animation company( matahari), the problem i think is the price, aside from maraming available sa india is mura pa ang lobor cost nila but i nterms of skills and qulity of work we can still compete with them.

and of course we need a big break and the company that will give a break for the pilipino artist.

yup, mura pa nga ang labor cost dito sa india sir...pero yung mga malalaking company dito like sa feild ng CG mga artist nila are filipinos,thats what i heard sa yahoo group ng mga filipino dito...mostly located in mumbai and bangalore... ...

i think hindi tayo nahuhuli boss. tama c boss bokkins, kulang lng talaga tayo sa awareness.marami jan nagkalat na mga pinoy cg artist kung saan-saan na magagaling.kaya lng mostly outsourcing lng talaga. One animation studio dito na alam kong my mga big clients ay ang Toon City with clients like Walt Disney Television Animation, Universal Animation, Warner Bros. Animation, MoonScoop Productions, etc.

http://corp.toei-anim.co.jp/english/

Phils is the production hub of TOEI...one of my friend work here, kaya i dont think na Pilipino CG artist are behind.

depends on what you mean by behind - I believe that for the industry to move up we must put our foot forward from being the executioner to initiator.

The lack of hard hitting, business sustaninable original pinoy content is what making us all second to all of them.

Unfortunately for some, the issue is so miniscule to call attention. But the thought is - if we're doing cg for somebody else's projects, we're in their behinds arent we?

I'm sure these has been discussed here a million times and I have probably said the same stuff. I already forgot the keywords, maybe somebody else can point you to it.

PS> Thanks Boks for the special mention. While we may be able to work on projects that may stand value abroad - I'd be happy when the time comes when we are able to work on our own projects. Like other business would say, "We're working on it!"

hmmm... I really like when the vertex wrangler give some comments and criticism sa kahit anu mang thread.. Sossy nga according to sir Onel.. But i like it..

Sa Wall-E, filipino din naman ang isang CG artist duon.. And he is an Architect.. Napanoud ko lang sa news dati kaya ko alam..

v_wrangler wrote:depends on what you mean by behind - I believe that for the industry to move up we must put our foot forward from being the executioner to initiator.

The lack of hard hitting, business sustaninable original pinoy content is what making us all second to all of them.

Unfortunately for some, the issue is so miniscule to call attention. But the thought is - if we're doing cg for somebody else's projects, we're in their behinds arent we?

I'm sure these has been discussed here a million times and I have probably said the same stuff. I already forgot the keywords, maybe somebody else can point you to it.

PS> Thanks Boks for the special mention. While we may be able to work on projects that may stand value abroad - I'd be happy when the time comes when we are able to work on our own projects. Like other business would say, "We're working on it!"

yap, i agree with you sir, in terms of others fields in cg like architectural visualization and 2d cg artist, we are still in level with them.

What we need is big break for the pinoy cg artist who work in aniamtion/movies, that can we called "our own" and that will be the turning point of cg pinoy artist and animators.

DI ako sossy virus, i can be as kowboy as can be.

The problem with the industry is our culture. We aren't trained to be business-oriented starters. Rather than become entrepreneurs , we were trained by the society to be employees or followers. Not that there aren't good leaders in the industries - but most of them have either left for abroad or have been working on projects that were either conceptualized by another foreign mind or simply farmed out locally.

If we will gauge the individual designer abilities - of course there is no reason to say that we are inferior. We can work alongside with our foreign counterparts and our skills are second to none. Don't take this as a general assessment though. Of course Mabuhay ang Pinoy! Pero hindi lahat.

The industry would probably take a good turning point when all of us are able to create concepts that will instill original filipino values and express our unique culture. Enough of the bahags, and the lapu-lapus and our imitations of disney and pixar. Our culture is so rich with concepts that have business potentials. We just have to dig deeper and learn to nurture and develop the ideas we can pick up from our culture. There is only one important ingredient that must be present at all times - our projects along this line should have a global appeal - without it, we will not have the audience we so desire, and without audiences to provide patronage - the industry will not be able to sustain it's business vialbility and we will find ourselves, simply the manpower export capital...

Not that it's bad though, maybe not now but sooner, imagine a philippine drained with its brains...

@ v_wrangler - I agree with you. Hindi masyadong business minded ang pinoy. Sa culture natin kasi kapag ambitious parang masama like ambisyoso / ambisyosa. Tapos ang pagiging self employed or may sariling negosyo is associated with nagtitinda sa banketa / palenke. So it's no surprise that most of the large businesses in our country are controlled by Filipino Chinese. I have been living for almost a decade in north america and had observed na kakaunti lang ang percentage ng pinoy na may business when compared to other ethnic groups like Chinese & Indians. Tapos kung may business sila, usually Filipino store or balikbayan box. This pinoy characteristic is so embedded on our genes that it gets exported too. Parang doon sa kantang New York, 'If I can make it here, I can make it everywhere.

Hello guys... Agree ako ke sir vertex.

Hindi naman sa pag mamayabang but with enough time, money and talented (and dedicated) people we can come up with a very nice project. Here is one classic example done a few years ago:



That was done by a pure filipino group, except of course of the actors and partly the CG supe, but then it shows we can do it.

The ideas are there, its just the the money and the willingness to invest. Mentality and business trends also is killing our CG industry since no one wants to spend multi-millions on a single project... masyadong risky for them. Kasi naman yung film natin, they want to spend less and earn more. Kayat patok yung mga love stories kasi mayadong mababa yung production cost and yung post-production. In a sense our films at times cost even less than some commercials that you see on TV.

But on the bright side... RPG full length animation is already in the works and hopefully matapos na. That might catalyze investors to take the risk and produce an international calibre film / cg animation.

kindqa agree with v_wrangler too. everytime i browse tons ofchinese architectural books by rihan and then comparing it to the renderings of our fellow filipinos dito palang sa cgpinoy, we really do have the skill, we can even produce a book like those, and i bet it'll sell big time!!.( i am always thinking about this type of business). its a perfect way to show what pinoy cg artist can really achieve.
anyway.

we are competitive by skill... definitely not behind
but in terms of pronouncing it?... kulang pa po siguro.
but the good thing is,,, we're not stopping!!!

Impossible that we are behind. I've work with Toon City in the Philippines before for a looong time and I could say that we've produced a lot more animated content than you have ever mention sa mga upcoming countries na yan. The truth is di tayo huli nauna tayo, sila ang bago sa field. Di lang mayabang ang mga pinoy at minsan kulang lang sa pagpapakalat ng balita. You never know but some of the animated movies you or your kid is watching is done by Filipinos in the Philippines.