Pilipino CG Artist, are we behind in this industries?

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Indian artist-they work with walt disney (thinkerbell and more)
Korean artist-disney channel (Dibo the gift dragon)
Malaysian artist-disney channel (upin and ipin, also have their own full length 3d movies where "upin and ipin" got thier debut)

I also read an old blog: http://rmsgentlewind.multiply.com/journal/item/19

I know that there are many talented cg pilipino, but where are they? they work in architectural firm here and abroad as ofw, work as a layout artist in advertising firm or web design company and so on.....why don't we consider that cg is serous job.

opinion lang po....

Impossible that we are behind. I've work with Toon City in the Philippines before for a looong time and I could say that we've produced a lot more animated content than you have ever mention sa mga upcoming countries na yan. The truth is di tayo huli nauna tayo, sila ang bago sa field. Di lang mayabang ang mga pinoy at minsan kulang lang sa pagpapakalat ng balita. You never know but some of the animated movies you or your kid is watching is done by Filipinos in the Philippines.

v_wrangler wrote:DI ako sossy virus, i can be as kowboy as can be.

The problem with the industry is our culture. We aren't trained to be business-oriented starters. Rather than become entrepreneurs , we were trained by the society to be employees or followers. Not that there aren't good leaders in the industries - but most of them have either left for abroad or have been working on projects that were either conceptualized by another foreign mind or simply farmed out locally.

If we will gauge the individual designer abilities - of course there is no reason to say that we are inferior. We can work alongside with our foreign counterparts and our skills are second to none. Don't take this as a general assessment though. Of course Mabuhay ang Pinoy! Pero hindi lahat.

The industry would probably take a good turning point when all of us are able to create concepts that will instill original filipino values and express our unique culture. Enough of the bahags, and the lapu-lapus and our imitations of disney and pixar. Our culture is so rich with concepts that have business potentials. We just have to dig deeper and learn to nurture and develop the ideas we can pick up from our culture. There is only one important ingredient that must be present at all times - our projects along this line should have a global appeal - without it, we will not have the audience we so desire, and without audiences to provide patronage - the industry will not be able to sustain it's business vialbility and we will find ourselves, simply the manpower export capital...

Not that it's bad though, maybe not now but sooner, imagine a philippine drained with its brains...

I agree with you sir V..

and this is also the big difference between filipinos and chinesse or indians,mostly of us filipinos will dream to finish a degree in college in order to land a better job and make money while a chinesse or indian most will dream to finish his/her degree in college for him/her to pursue and be qualified for the MBA program...

As I mentioned in the post above - it will all make a difference depending on what one may be looking at.

I look at the issue as an industry and without doubt, the US, Europe, Korea and Japan remain at the limelight. Why? Because all the cool stuff comes from them!

If one would look at individual skill - there is no doubt at all that the FIlipino can make it. Does it have to be a big surprise? Hell No, not because the Filipino race is a superduper dna. It is because some people are just plain brainy than the other. That's the rule of the survival of the fittest. It is not special to the FIlipino. Any person, regardless of race can achieve what the biggies have done given the right opportunity and a good mixture of talent and perseverance. That my friend is the department we'r e lacking...

The number of good people working on good foreign projects will never ever dictate our position in this race. Because sooner or later, a more cheaper workforce in some foreign land will come before us, the jobs will leave the Philippines in its sorry state and the artists will have no choice but to leave and seek refuge somewhere else.

Success of the industry will be measured, when all of those brainies who left years ago decide to comeback and practice the profession in the motherland. Success of the industry will be measured when we are all able to produce original content that will be praised, loved and imitated.

The industry is a success, when those contemplating about leaving, no longer find a reason to seek greener pastures abroad.

I do not think this will ever be possible without a change of heart. Each participant in this industry must claim that he or she is part of it, not just an observer. In the same way a businessman looks at his own pundar. And until it happens - I'll never be a happy content man.

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v_wrangler wrote:


I agree with you sir V..

and this is also the big difference between filipinos and chinesse or indians,mostly of us filipinos will dream to finish a degree in college in order to land a better job and make money while a chinesse or indian most will dream to finish his/her degree in college for him/her to pursue and be qualified for the MBA program...

Speaking about education, the focus has always been to train students so that they can be employees right away in some foreign land? Funny isn't it. But that's the way of life in the Philippines. We will always be a factory of service people unless someone, somehow breaks the chain..

In contrast to Japan, Education is somewhat focused on training one's ablities, hardwork and self-reliance. Uniqueness is a virtue. Innovation. Not that Japan became an economic giant by suwerte. They were moved by the same aspirations we have now. Same goals different styles.

Imagine if all of us find the deeper meanings of hardwork, uniqueness and self-reliance.

Last year I attend an exibit which organized by Animation Council of the Philippines "animahenasyon 2009", showcasing the talent of pinoy cg artist, I find it really good to see such work done by pilipino artist especially tha one with naruto adaptation of mtv. but on the lobby of cinema where there is only one both which own by an Indian animation company (i think they are located in pasig) selling thier 2d animation movies (i dont remember the title)and it was created here in manila with all pinoy artist.

@ sir bokkins....wala bang chance na i-feature yung mga cg-artist/visualizer/designer/architect sa site mo....especially doon sa main page...in line with home/forum/profile.

I mean pwede naman ilagay yung article sa loob ng cg discussion but i think it will be great if it is on the main selection of the site.

One problem is filipino lack publicity or media exposure para doon sa mga taong already making difference doon sa field.

Your site will be a great opportunity for them. Like lets say someone can write a detailed article about thier fellow filipino. Include me on writing one for someone I dont even know personally. And Im guessing others will do as well.

tsk tsk tsk...did you do the UP oblation run sir?

@sir V- I can understand your sympathy to japan..I also work there before but not every one has the quality. Only means that there are really few who makes the difference and goverment/companies support them. Filipinos in general become diverse culture (half-blood-half blood and no blood of the real makoy) We are once a great nation remember before the collapse of the economy 70-80s. I guess we really need to work together to achieve a common a goal. I think diversity in all form is killing us all. off topic na ba?

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I think we are not behind, its just not recognize by all means.

ok na ok sir.....suggest ko lang kung pwedeng sa main page sya ok na ok yun....about sa writing an article I will be willing to do it as i said....

more power sa site mo.

di mo pa answer yung last question ko...he he.

may punto si The-hand hindi talaga lahat ng working pinoy ay ganun. Tingin ninyo kung nahuhuli tayo bakit kinukuha paring ng mga kilala sa larangan ng animation or 3d ang mga pinoy katulad natin?may ugali ang mga pinoy na matiyaga sa trabaho and madaling matuto sa kahit anung larangan ng trabaho kaya its impossible na we are behind. tama din si kat palmares

we are competitive by skill... definitely not behind
lahat tayo may sariling pananaw sa kung ano ang nakikita natin wag lang sana natin isipin at gawing negative may skills tayo na kaya magbigay pangalan sa kanila. sana sabay-sabay natin isipin na sa hinaharap pangalan ng pinoy ang makikita natin na sikat sa buong mundo
lahat naman may punto eh negative lang talaga mag isip ang iba.

http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20080819-155640/A-Pinoy-at-Pixar

http://filmacademyphil.org/?p=1789

http://www.smartjuan.com/nelsonbohol.html

bokkins wrote:meron bro. we're still on developing how the content would be. pro madami na tayong nakapending na interviews. soon we will launch the artist spotlight section. medyo di pa kasi tayo gaanong showbiz, although na-feature na din tayo sa magazine sa dubai.

soon, ilalabas natin ang artist spotlight.

ok yan mga sir, sana magkaroon din ng exibit ang cgpinoy or mag sponsor sa mga school activities para mag karoon ng awareness ang mga future cg atist or gustong maging cg artist. kung pwede lang naman, suggestion lang.

short answer: yes

long answer: oo nga merong mga pinoy na kasama na gumawa sa big budget 3d projects, pero minority lang tayo dun. konti lang talaga mahilig mag pursue ng 3d dito.

konti lang din dito yung matino talaga na school na nagtuturo ng 3d kasi malaki kailangan na budget kasi para sa computers, software, etc. although marami dito yung mga tipong self study kasi madali makakuha ng pirated na software para matuto.

buti nalang nga merong internet (the great equalizer) kasi kung wala nyan, sobrang konti talaga ng pinoy na nag33d tapos sobrang behind pa tayo lalo. oo nga na meron magagaling, pero lets face it in general behind parin talaga tayo. kelan ba huling na discuss dito yung siggraph? or pinoy na na feature sa d'artiste books? or pinoy co. na pinagusapan sa E3 o sa tokyo game convention?

tingin ko macocompare natin sa music industry ang 3d industry ngayon. parang meron tayong charice pempengco at arnel pineda, pero yun lang dalawa lang. tska siguro sa isang charice pempengco merong 10 na pangtapat yung ibang bansa na singer.

I was at the Hongkong FILMART expo last March with Philippine movie director Tony Y. Reyes and have met many of the pinoy attendees. I've also attended the seminars and have met some of the exhibitors, both foreign and pinoys. I'll try to sum up my initial observations in my next post. Perhaps, it will give us some clues why some countries fare well and some doesnt..