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Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:10 am

Concept is from a photo i saw on the net, entitled "Self-illumination" by *Kutsche. (you can find his works here at http://kutsche.deviantart.com/.

Here are some of his works at http://www.ak3d.de/

I decided to emulate it for practice purposes. anyway, here it is. bounce

*updated: since someone kindly gave me the original author of this art, it was already decided that i should give credits to him, or her. Thank you.


Original concept image:



My Take:


AO/Dirt Pass (updated):

http://www.ak3d.de/


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Post by eragasco on Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:41 am

wow! ganda sir!

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Post by nahumreigh on Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:19 am

cool Very Happy

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Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:37 am

eragasco wrote:wow! ganda sir!

nahumreigh wrote:cool Very Happy

thanks masters. Smile

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Re: Bulby - (updated w/ AO/dirt pass)

Post by DemiKiss on Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:23 am

ayus to sir.. sa tingin ko kulang lang sa self shadow pra maseparate ung pader at floor... sa king plagay lng po un sir bka pagod lng mata ko kakacomputer... maremedy cguru ng AO pass..

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Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:56 am

DemiKiss wrote:ayus to sir.. sa tingin ko kulang lang sa self shadow pra maseparate ung pader at floor... sa king plagay lng po un sir bka pagod lng mata ko kakacomputer... maremedy cguru ng AO pass..

honestly sir i dont know how to do an AO pass, Ambient Occlusion ba un? im willing to learn provided may magturo. hehe Smile

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Re: Bulby - (updated w/ AO/dirt pass)

Post by DemiKiss on Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:18 am

yes iyon un sir.. maya ba ung gamit nyu? sa render layer tab my mga preset ata dun.. hndi ko na din kasi maalala at nagkalabolabo na ung maya at 3Dsmax sa utak ko.. peru alam ko dun un. dun sa render layer pg ngcreate ka ng layer tpos mamili ka lng ng preset na occlusion... igoogle mo na lang din pra my step by step process na manually mag set ng materials at timplahin ung mging hitsura ng AO.. hope this helps..

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Post by celes on Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:25 am

nice, but the edges are too sharp

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Re: Bulby - (updated w/ AO/dirt pass)

Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:28 am

DemiKiss wrote:yes iyon un sir.. maya ba ung gamit nyu? sa render layer tab my mga preset ata dun.. hndi ko na din kasi maalala at nagkalabolabo na ung maya at 3Dsmax sa utak ko.. peru alam ko dun un. dun sa render layer pg ngcreate ka ng layer tpos mamili ka lng ng preset na occlusion... igoogle mo na lang din pra my step by step process na manually mag set ng materials at timplahin ung mging hitsura ng AO.. hope this helps..

thanks sir, will try it on my renders next time, im using 3ds max and vray. hindi pa kaya ng powers ko ang maya. thanks for dropping by. Smile

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Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:31 am

celes wrote:nice, but the edges are too sharp

hello master. Very Happy awww, nasobrahan sa unsharp mask sir. willing ako pa-tutor sayo sir ^_^ kelan ba pwede? Hehe. Smile

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Re: Bulby - (updated w/ AO/dirt pass)

Post by DemiKiss on Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:44 am

vinc3nt12 wrote:
DemiKiss wrote:yes iyon un sir.. maya ba ung gamit nyu? sa render layer tab my mga preset ata dun.. hndi ko na din kasi maalala at nagkalabolabo na ung maya at 3Dsmax sa utak ko.. peru alam ko dun un. dun sa render layer pg ngcreate ka ng layer tpos mamili ka lng ng preset na occlusion... igoogle mo na lang din pra my step by step process na manually mag set ng materials at timplahin ung mging hitsura ng AO.. hope this helps..

thanks sir, will try it on my renders next time, im using 3ds max and vray. hindi pa kaya ng powers ko ang maya. thanks for dropping by. Smile

3Dsmax ka pla... sa tingin ko sa render setup ata un sa render elements tpos add ng self illumination... hndi tlg ako sa lightings at render ngmamaster peru inaral ko n rin ung proseso nung dalawang apps.

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Re: Bulby - (updated w/ AO/dirt pass)

Post by Guest on Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:39 am

walang dudang maganda ito,
http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/?qh=&section=&q=3d+bulb#/dh3d88

pero isa ito sa mga problema ng pinoy,
mahirap gumawa ng original o makakita ng original.
di din naman masamang gumaya,.
andiyan yung fan art,form ng panggagaya yun,
at ginagawa ko din naman yun.(ginagawa yun ng artist na fan)

pero yung makita mo yung isang conceptual art eh gagayahin din ng isang artist ,eksaktong concept pareho ng elements at pareho pang medium na 3d
eh medyo hindi kaaya aya yun.
isipin mo nalang yung mararamdaman ng gumawa ng original nito.lalo pat di siya nabigyan ng credits.
artist tayo kaya dapat bigyan natin ng konsiderasyon yung kapwa natin artist(respeto)
kahit sabihin nating pang praktis lang to.

wag ka sana maoffend kapatid.
alam kong may magagawa kang iba na matatawag mong iyo.
alisin natin sa pinoy yung imaheng manggagaya lang.


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Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:39 am

DemiKiss wrote:
vinc3nt12 wrote:
DemiKiss wrote:yes iyon un sir.. maya ba ung gamit nyu? sa render layer tab my mga preset ata dun.. hndi ko na din kasi maalala at nagkalabolabo na ung maya at 3Dsmax sa utak ko.. peru alam ko dun un. dun sa render layer pg ngcreate ka ng layer tpos mamili ka lng ng preset na occlusion... igoogle mo na lang din pra my step by step process na manually mag set ng materials at timplahin ung mging hitsura ng AO.. hope this helps..

thanks sir, will try it on my renders next time, im using 3ds max and vray. hindi pa kaya ng powers ko ang maya. thanks for dropping by. Smile

3Dsmax ka pla... sa tingin ko sa render setup ata un sa render elements tpos add ng self illumination... hndi tlg ako sa lightings at render ngmamaster peru inaral ko n rin ung proseso nung dalawang apps.

natry ko na po sir ung AO pass, hindi ko lang sure kung tama. :O ayun po yung image sa taas.

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Post by vinc3nt12 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:50 am

pressure wrote:walang dudang maganda ito,
http://browse.deviantart.com/digitalart/?qh=&section=&q=3d+bulb#/dh3d88

pero isa ito sa mga problema ng pinoy,
mahirap gumawa ng original o makakita ng original.
di din naman masamang gumaya,.
andiyan yung fan art,form ng panggagaya yun,
at ginagawa ko din naman yun.(ginagawa yun ng artist na fan)

pero yung makita mo yung isang conceptual art eh gagayahin din ng isang artist ,eksaktong concept pareho ng elements at pareho pang medium na 3d
eh medyo hindi kaaya aya yun.
isipin mo nalang yung mararamdaman ng gumawa ng original nito.lalo pat di siya nabigyan ng credits.
artist tayo kaya dapat bigyan natin ng konsiderasyon yung kapwa natin artist(respeto)
kahit sabihin nating pang praktis lang to.

wag ka sana maoffend kapatid.
alam kong may magagawa kang iba na matatawag mong iyo.
alisin natin sa pinoy yung imaheng manggagaya lang.

I already left a message at the owners site telling him if i could use his image for inspiration and for my practice purposes. No kapatid, im not offended, salamat din at kahit papano ay may nagpapaalala satin from time to time sa mga nagagawa nating kamalian, i admit it was wrong of me not to properly look for the owner first and ask for his consent. Neutral

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Re: Bulby - (updated w/ AO/dirt pass)

Post by fox_19 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:55 am

as i remember he rendered it with maxwell?! if i'm not mistaken!cool nga mga creations nya!vince might as well creat your own subject ung mas makapilipino para mas astig pero great job sa concept mo an rendering!sana matutunan ko din master!

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Post by fox_19 on Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:55 am

as i remember he rendered it with maxwell?! if i'm not mistaken!cool nga mga creations nya!vince might as well creat your own subject ung mas makapilipino para mas astig pero great job sa concept mo an rendering!sana matutunan ko din master!

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Post by vinc3nt12 on Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:23 am

fox_19 wrote:as i remember he rendered it with maxwell?! if i'm not mistaken!cool nga mga creations nya!vince might as well creat your own subject ung mas makapilipino para mas astig pero great job sa concept mo an rendering!sana matutunan ko din master!

next time i will. im not sure kung sa maxwell nga nya ginawa iyon. No

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Post by DemiKiss on Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:10 am

practice lang sir kahit gumaya kapa sa iba sa ngayon. dun din naman ako galing sa panggagaya ng technique ng iba peru at the end gawa ka din naman ng original mo gamit lahat ng natutunan mo. wala naman masama sa paggamit ng mga reference kahit sa ibang artist or sa nature or sa net..

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:50 pm

DemiKiss wrote:practice lang sir kahit gumaya kapa sa iba sa ngayon. dun din naman ako galing sa panggagaya ng technique ng iba peru at the end gawa ka din naman ng original mo gamit lahat ng natutunan mo. wala naman masama sa paggamit ng mga reference kahit sa ibang artist or sa nature or sa net..

"walang masama sa panggaya"
tama merong mga form ng art ng panggagaya.
walang masama sa panggagaya ng technique, tama din.
walang masama sa pagamit ng reference, isa pang tama,

pero bilang artist mahalaga sa atin ang originality,
hindi kelangang very original ang mahalaga matatawag mong iyo yung gawa mo,
ok lang manggaya ng technique o method, maganda yun pero yung eksaktong konsepto ng iba, masakit yun para sa artist na pinaggayahan mo,(sa pananaw ng iba pag ginaya ka flattering yun) pero hindi sa isang visual artist.
lalo na pag di ka nabigyan ng credits.
yung maunahan ka nga lang o manakawan ka ng ideyang naisip mo masakit na para sayo,
yun pa kaya yung gawa na?
sa paggamit naman ng reference napakahalaga nun para sa artist, pero ang reference eh ginagamit lang na basehan para di ka mahirapan sa concept mo(guide) .
hindi naman ito portraiture o fan art para gayahin mo yung reference mo,
napakalaking issue ng originality at pagiging manggagaya ng pinoy sa art, sa film o sa anung uso.

kahit dito sa cgp may mga topic na ganito.
kung bakit walang matawag na sariling atin sa industry natin?
makikigaya pa ba tayo?

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