Work Flow Thread

[Norman]

First topic message reminder :

Gusto kong pagusapan dito kung ano-ano bang work flow ang mga dinaanan nyo. in that way yung mga newbie na katulad ko e magkaroon ng idea. lets start kung pano tayo nag start. im for sure magkakaroon tayo ng clear and good start in 3d. lets go to basic software dito sa tambayan 3d max.

here's my workflow:
1. max(modellling and rendering) dito na ako diretso gumagawa ng model. second nalang ang SU pag may tangap ng trabaho. mas madaling gamitin e. i prefer dito magsimula kasi walang magiging problema sa rendering, texturing and mapping since direct siya from max.

http://www.cgpinoy.org/3d-studio-max-tutorials-f46/3ds-max-intro-to-modeling-chair-t6661.htm
http://www.cgpinoy.org/3d-studio-max-tutorials-f46/3ds-max-intro-to-modeling-using-bend-twist-taper-ffd-box-t6794.htm
http://www.cgpinoy.org/3d-studio-max-tutorials-f46/3d-max-modelling-tips-t3696.htm
http://www.cgpinoy.org/3d-studio-max-tutorials-f46/simple-house-modelling-by-f41-t6208.htm

2. photoshop(enhancing) usually dito ang madalas kong gamitin is ctrl+L(level), ctrl+M(curves), ctrl+B(color balance), yung brightness/contrast(nasa image tab, adjustment)

http://www.cgpinoy.org/photoshop-tutorials-f49/

later on this thread gawin kong detailed yung workflow para mas maintindihan ng tropa. and i hope to see the masters sharing their thoughts and workflow para sa mga small time na katulad ko at magkaroon ng idea from our big brothers.

[Norman]

mmm,

workflow thread? there was one tutorial i read on workflow and vray sets. it actually put the book "vray the complete guide" by legrenzi,

very obsolete, and very useless.



in other words really understanding vray would prevent one from working blindly. every trouble shooting has a direction. if none, every

render sets is just a mere guess, or quickly jumping to a conclusion.

nice one sir. i agree.

1. revit architecture- floor plans, elevations, sections, 3d model > save as fbx file (saves a lot of my time)
2. 3dmax- link fbx > load preset lighting > apply materials (nakalayer na lahat from revit kaya madali mag apply ng materials) > load entourage (nakagroup na) > test render with low resolution > final render
3. photoshop- kong may oras pa.

-usually 5 hours ko ginagawa ang lahat ng yan including 2d floor plans, sections, elevations (2-storey house). Ang medyo matagal e ang pag-iisip ng concept..

4. kong may revisions e ireremodel ko sa revit tapos overwrite fbx file. open 3dmax file (automatic update ung model since nakalink)> hit shift+q again.

nice WF dude.

off topic lang dude, tanong ko lang mabilis ba ang modeling sa revit kung modified yung design?let's say may ganitong design ng door:



i can finish this 3 to 5 mins sa 3d max. without texturing syempre.

[Norman]

Thanks jenaro for the add. bat di na ka na pala active dito?

thanks din kieko for the info!

[jen_tol84]

pa OT
@f-41= madali lang magmodify sir. gamit ka lng ng preset revit family template (rfa) tapos load mo sa scene. ang maganda sa revit e parametric meaning pwede mo baguhin ang sizes. example iyong door e pwede mo gawin .9, .8, .7M(automatic magrereflect sa floor plan and 3d)... pero dapat intindihin mo muna ung paggawa ng parameters sir... marami free rfa sa revitcity.com

[Norman]

pa OT
@f-41= madali lang magmodify sir. gamit ka lng ng preset revit family template (rfa) tapos load mo sa scene. ang maganda sa revit e parametric meaning pwede mo baguhin ang sizes. example iyong door e pwede mo gawin .9, .8, .7M(automatic magrereflect sa floor plan and 3d)... pero dapat intindihin mo muna ung paggawa ng parameters sir... marami free rfa sa revitcity.com

hehe. mabilis nga sa revit update pati floor plans. kaso pukpukan ang pag aral nun kasi ibang iba yung interface nya sa cad at max. thanks for sharing bro.

[cloud20]

pa OT
@f-41= madali lang magmodify sir. gamit ka lng ng preset revit family template (rfa) tapos load mo sa scene. ang maganda sa revit e parametric meaning pwede mo baguhin ang sizes. example iyong door e pwede mo gawin .9, .8, .7M(automatic magrereflect sa floor plan and 3d)... pero dapat intindihin mo muna ung paggawa ng parameters sir... marami free rfa sa revitcity.com

hehe. mabilis nga sa revit update pati floor plans. kaso pukpukan ang pag aral nun kasi ibang iba yung interface nya sa cad at max. thanks for sharing bro.

--Which is why merong Autocad Architecture (formerly Architectural Desktop) which has the features of Revit in a Cad environment. Not to dis Revit, which is what Autodesk is pushing right now..

[ortzak]

OT lang mga sir:Autocad MEP ba parang archl din? madali lang matutunan?

[Norman]

pa OT
@f-41= madali lang magmodify sir. gamit ka lng ng preset revit family template (rfa) tapos load mo sa scene. ang maganda sa revit e parametric meaning pwede mo baguhin ang sizes. example iyong door e pwede mo gawin .9, .8, .7M(automatic magrereflect sa floor plan and 3d)... pero dapat intindihin mo muna ung paggawa ng parameters sir... marami free rfa sa revitcity.com

hehe. mabilis nga sa revit update pati floor plans. kaso pukpukan ang pag aral nun kasi ibang iba yung interface nya sa cad at max. thanks for sharing bro.

--Which is why merong Autocad Architecture (formerly Architectural Desktop) which has the features of Revit in a Cad environment. Not to dis Revit, which is what Autodesk is pushing right now..

I still prefer Autocad architecture tito cloud. mas sanay pa rin ako sa pag type ng command. unlike revit by icons ang action nya(correct me if im wrong). In otherway, may sariling flow talaga din ang revit.

[Norman]

OT lang mga sir:Autocad MEP ba parang archl din? madali lang matutunan?

ang pagkakaintindi ko sir ed dito still cad pa rin ang interface nya pero with added pre-made elements related to mechanical and electrical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbjS8ZcW6ns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmf6s72C0c

[cloud20]

pa OT
@f-41= madali lang magmodify sir. gamit ka lng ng preset revit family template (rfa) tapos load mo sa scene. ang maganda sa revit e parametric meaning pwede mo baguhin ang sizes. example iyong door e pwede mo gawin .9, .8, .7M(automatic magrereflect sa floor plan and 3d)... pero dapat intindihin mo muna ung paggawa ng parameters sir... marami free rfa sa revitcity.com

hehe. mabilis nga sa revit update pati floor plans. kaso pukpukan ang pag aral nun kasi ibang iba yung interface nya sa cad at max. thanks for sharing bro.

--Which is why merong Autocad Architecture (formerly Architectural Desktop) which has the features of Revit in a Cad environment. Not to dis Revit, which is what Autodesk is pushing right now..

I still prefer Autocad architecture tito cloud. mas sanay pa rin ako sa pag type ng command. unlike revit by icons ang action nya(correct me if im wrong). In otherway, may sariling flow talaga din ang revit.

--My weapon of choice din iho, although icon mode ako di ako natuto ng command kaunti lang alam ko. Good news is sa 2012 pag nag type ka ng command may suggestions na sa bottom left sides ng command so pili-pili na lang kung baga..

[ninong]

13. post processing
after effects - curves, DOF (using a vray zdepth pass) and noise (for night scenes). contrary to what many believe, a bit of noise is essential. clean renders only apply to scenes with enough ambient and day lighting. (this principle i got from photography)

sir celes, tanong ko lang about AE. pano work flow dito? i mean pag na render ko na diretso after effects ang post processing, tapos save nyo nalang ng image ulit(jpeg)?

ito ang hindi ko pa na try, ang dami ko ngang nakikita ang workflow ay sa AE. sir ano bang advantage pag nag post process ka sa AE?