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Post by celes on Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:47 pm

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by ERICK on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:07 pm

@ dude torvicz - langya dude, inumpisahan mo na naman ang kalokohan.. wahehehe....
@ dude celes - nice thread... im totally disappointed sa nangyari and at the same time in grief na din... kaawa awang mga dayuhan...



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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by johnolive100 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:09 pm

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Hong Kong government permanent attendance broken 6 family widow loses two females to suffer the person who can be trusted heavy losses again  [Ming Daily special news]Is rescued female hostage Wu You Yuan night before last to complain tearfully, hoped that after husband Liang Jinrong gives self up to saves others the sacrifice, may bless the children who 3 disappear without a trace to be safe, the result actually makes her disappointed ──21 year-old eldest daughter ode (Doris) and 14 years old 孻 female praises the meter (Jessie) to confirm is murdered, because 18 year-old second son praises study the top of the head the hard object to hit hard, but must stay in hospital the sincere treatment department, has not for the present the determination is injuried by the police broken window hard mallet, suffers the ringer to hit hard by the M16 rifle stock ......[details] (2010-08-25)
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by celes on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:23 pm

ERICK wrote:@ dude torvicz - langya dude, inumpisahan mo na naman ang kalokohan.. wahehehe....
@ dude celes - nice thread... im totally disappointed sa nangyari and at the same time in grief na din... kaawa awang mga dayuhan...



hehe well, sabi nga nila shit happens.

ito pa: http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/

natawa ako dun sa linya na "A recent report says the most dangerous place in the world nowadays is Somalia. In close second is 'inside a bus anywhere in the Philippines.' " :p
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by torvicz on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:26 pm

celes wrote:
ERICK wrote:@ dude torvicz - langya dude, inumpisahan mo na naman ang kalokohan.. wahehehe....
@ dude celes - nice thread... im totally disappointed sa nangyari and at the same time in grief na din... kaawa awang mga dayuhan...



hehe well, sabi nga nila shit happens.

ito pa: http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/

natawa ako dun sa linya na "A recent report says the most dangerous place in the world nowadays is Somalia. In close second is 'inside a bus anywhere in the Philippines.' " :p

hehehe, pasok na pasok yang ganyang joke ngayon...joke nga ba yan dude celes?
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by ERICK on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:27 pm

torvicz wrote:
celes wrote:
ERICK wrote:@ dude torvicz - langya dude, inumpisahan mo na naman ang kalokohan.. wahehehe....
@ dude celes - nice thread... im totally disappointed sa nangyari and at the same time in grief na din... kaawa awang mga dayuhan...



hehe well, sabi nga nila shit happens.

ito pa: http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/

natawa ako dun sa linya na "A recent report says the most dangerous place in the world nowadays is Somalia. In close second is 'inside a bus anywhere in the Philippines.' " :p

hehehe, pasok na pasok yang ganyang joke ngayon...joke nga ba yan dude celes?

parang joke to dude... wahihihi... natawa din ako eh...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kieko on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:28 pm

celes wrote:
ERICK wrote:@ dude torvicz - langya dude, inumpisahan mo na naman ang kalokohan.. wahehehe....
@ dude celes - nice thread... im totally disappointed sa nangyari and at the same time in grief na din... kaawa awang mga dayuhan...



hehe well, sabi nga nila shit happens.

ito pa: http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/

natawa ako dun sa linya na "A recent report says the most dangerous place in the world nowadays is Somalia. In close second is 'inside a bus anywhere in the Philippines.' " :p

hahaha..well puro bus incident ngayon.may nalaglag na bus, may na hijack..ano kaya next?
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by torvicz on Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:33 pm

ERICK wrote:
torvicz wrote:
celes wrote:
ERICK wrote:@ dude torvicz - langya dude, inumpisahan mo na naman ang kalokohan.. wahehehe....
@ dude celes - nice thread... im totally disappointed sa nangyari and at the same time in grief na din... kaawa awang mga dayuhan...



hehe well, sabi nga nila shit happens.

ito pa: http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/

natawa ako dun sa linya na "A recent report says the most dangerous place in the world nowadays is Somalia. In close second is 'inside a bus anywhere in the Philippines.' " :p

hehehe, pasok na pasok yang ganyang joke ngayon...joke nga ba yan dude celes?

parang joke to dude... wahihihi... natawa din ako eh...

mukha nga dude...

pero sabi nga ni dude keiko, maraming accidents ngayon na involve ang mga bus. sad.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kieko on Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:30 pm

dapat ganito ang training..


grabe..
2x mas mabilis
2x mas ang gamit
2x ang lupit...

sana mahabol ito at lagpasan pa ng mga pinoy..
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by jhero on Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:48 pm

nice video keiko... dapat mapanuod ng mga pulis natin to... dapat ganyan ang action nila para mataranta ang hostage taker....
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by b3werdna on Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:45 am



very exaggerated reenactment video... so sad.. ung isa daw na taga pa ng pulis.. tsk tsk tsk...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by arjun_samar on Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:33 am

A very simple situation yet our s.w.a.t. unit can't neutralize even just one insane hostage taker, kahit ang mga batang gamer ng ffs games alam ang simple formula with it comes to situation like this the element of surprise nung nakita ko yung one na nag-atempt yung swat naghagis ng flash bang ng papasuk na my mopotok tapus nagbabaan agad sila parang nakakita ng multong bakla panu nga naman makakasugod ng mabilis kung ang dalang tyan isang sako ng bigas kabigat. tapus yung binalak nilang hatakin yung hydrulic door using a rope naputol nagtawanan tuloy and lahat ang sabi pa nga NAG-IISIP BA SILA? A filipino policeman is very well trained with it comes to KALOKOHAN dati nung bata ako laki ng respeto ko sa mga pinoy police ngayon what I see them, they are just ONE BIG JOKE!

ito pa; yung kapatid na dinampot, basic logic lang pag ang isang hayop nakita nyan sinasaktan yung kamilya nya diba magiging agressive to? di ba nila naisip yun?


tingnan natin yung video na binigay ni kieko di nga umabot ng sampung minuto napasuk na ng russian swat yung bus pero yung swat natin umabot pa ng 10 oras pero mission failed pa, dami ang namatay.

hay.... there goes are our very own POLIS PATOLA! Twisted Evil
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by jhero on Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:53 pm

share ko lang recreated video of hostage drama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-Qg3SbPh0
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by phranq on Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:57 pm

jhero wrote:share ko lang recreated video of hostage drama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-Qg3SbPh0

posted already by b3werdna
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by Leslie Adona on Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:51 pm

Thanks Chan using Venus Raj’s popular expression: Jackie Chan deserves a MAJOR MAJOR Thank YOU! Adyocampo said: Jackie Chan extends a hand of friendship to Filipinos. AYOS! Malacanang itself thanked Chan for his gesture. Presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda, who knows how to speak Chinese, said ‘Thank you’ to Chan in his language. In his Twitter account, Chan said he heard about “the terrible news” upon returning to Hong Kong from Korea. “I come back to hk & I hear terrible news about what happened in filippines [sic]. A lot of things don’t happen to your own country you don’t pay attention,” Chan said in his Twitter page. Chan noted the hostage taking could have happened elsewhere but it was heartbreaking that it had to happen to Hong Kong citizens.

This kind of things always happen around the world [sic]. It happened to hk’s people, the whole hk is talking about it. It’s really sad,” Chan said. Chan also acknowledged that authorities were in a difficult position during the hostage crisis. “If they killed the guy sooner, they will say why not negotiate first? If they negotiate first, they ask why not kill the guy sooner? So sad,” he said

Sana lahat kagaya ni Jackie Chan at sana tayong Pinoy instead na palalain natin ang sitwasyon at kung ano ano parin paninira ang sinasabi natin sa sarili nating Bansa bakit di nalang natin sikapin na bumangon at itama ang Mali,tapos na nangyari na ano pang magagawa natin.Magturuan man dina maibabalik ang buhay ng mga taong yun.Instead of magsisihan at ikahiya ang bansa dapat ipagtangol nyo kahit konti, dahil pagbali baligtarin man ang mundo Pinoy parin tayo. And pinoy ang nanalaytay sa mga dugo natin.And im proud to be one. Very Happy
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by dwin_0921 on Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:56 pm

kung ikukumpara sa isang puno ang pilipinas, mga dahon at sanga lang nang puno ang katulad nitong mga problema sa pilipinas,,
hanggat hindi nabubunot ang ugat ng puno,lalago pa rin at.dadami at dadami ang problema sating bansa,
sisihan tuloy ngayun
ang tinutukoy kong ugat ay ang ating sistema nang gobyerno.
over freedom of press,,napapanood nang hostagetaker yung nangyayari sa labas..parang tuloy kasabwat ng hostage taker yung media.
kawawa ulit tayong mga mabubuting Pilipino.
>>opinion ko lang mga masterS<<<
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by northhigh on Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:43 pm

ang ugat na sinasabi ninyo ay hindi ang gobyerno kundi ang sarili nating bawat pilipino.. umaasa tayo sa gobyerno palagi, pag may problema example sa news reklamo ng mga tao " e saan kami kukuha ng ipapakain namin sa mga anak namin", " bakit kasi ganun ang gobyerno", "hindi nakapag aral pagkat walng pera", sa family planning namn angal ang simbahan", "gumawa ng krimen pagkat walang pera" at pag may krimen g nangyayari takot ang mga tao tumulong, dahil sa celpon may pinatay, higit sa lahat ay nawawala na ang ating konsensya sa bawat tao, wala tayong pakialam sa pilipinong hindi natin kakilala.. nanunuod tayo ng mga masasamang kaganapan sa internet subalit tayoy hindi natututo.. wala yung sinasabi ng bawat libro ng pagiging tao..consciousness and conscience Very Happy
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bhanArt3d on Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:55 pm

kieko wrote:
phranq wrote:
torvicz wrote:
ERICK wrote:S.W.A.T. - Sugod! Wait... Atras!!! Takbo!!!


S.W.A.T. = Sana Wag Ako Tamaan



S.W.A.T. = Sorry Wala Akong Training

S.W.A.T. = Some Weapons And Techniques

Dto sa Hk sabi ng mga Hongkongers/Hongkongist

S.W.A.T. – Sorry, Without Any Training

some of them understand na nagyayari talaga to kahit saan , Yun nga lng I think This is the major tragedy na involve ang dalawang lugar , kaya medyo emotional pa din , at hindi ksi sila sanay n makaranas ng ganyan tragedy .. so tulad din nila I hope tayo mga pinoy understand what happen and try to do or not do para hindi grumabe ang balita ... like taking group pics on the site like a tourist spot ... kc tulad natin well inform din cla ...

And sa mga pinoy 3d guys and gals here in hk .. ingat and understand ...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kieko on Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:30 pm

bhanArt3d wrote:
kieko wrote:
phranq wrote:
torvicz wrote:
ERICK wrote:S.W.A.T. - Sugod! Wait... Atras!!! Takbo!!!


S.W.A.T. = Sana Wag Ako Tamaan



S.W.A.T. = Sorry Wala Akong Training

S.W.A.T. = Some Weapons And Techniques

Dto sa Hk sabi ng mga Hongkongers/Hongkongist

S.W.A.T. – Sorry, Without Any Training

some of them understand na nagyayari talaga to kahit saan , Yun nga lng I think This is the major tragedy na involve ang dalawang lugar , kaya medyo emotional pa din , at hindi ksi sila sanay n makaranas ng ganyan tragedy .. so tulad din nila I hope tayo mga pinoy understand what happen and try to do or not do para hindi grumabe ang balita ... like taking group pics on the site like a tourist spot ... kc tulad natin well inform din cla ...

And sa mga pinoy 3d guys and gals here in hk .. ingat and understand ...


tama yun..it happens and it can happen everywhere..

but the problem kasi which i believe kinagalit ng mga taga HK is yung mali maling diskarte ng mga pulis na ginawa..
ok sana kung talagang kahangahanga ang ginawa ng mga pulis na talagang mapapabilib ka na makikita mo ginawa ang lahat,
yun sa tingin ko magiging katanggap tanggap,

ang problema kasi, hindi ganun ang ginawa..
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by Modoler on Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:32 pm

http://www.sb.gov.hk/eng/ota/

We are the only country on top of the list. Talo pa ang Iran, Pakistan at Russian. 2thumbsup

Okay lang kung walang turista. Hindi tayo mahahawa kung may sars o swine flu ulit. bandera bandera bandera bandera panalo

Special training ng Philippine SWAT: "Mamang hostage taker, mag beer muna tayo!"

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by ronski_g on Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:57 pm

You know everyone, I have several points here I wanted to voice out just to let you all kow.

Point 1 - This aftermath posts a very serious problem to us working here in HK. Can you imagine being in a territory were the victims of the world publicized hostage tragedy - are locals here!??! It's like being in the era of MARTIAL LAW back in the 70's and I'm not exaggerating.

Point 2 - Because of the people who were responsible for this terrible accident, WE would have to serve as a shock absorber to the angry locals and chinese that we need to face up every single day. As you may know, not all people - have an open mind. That's why you guys can't blame me if I want to shout out my dismay to our law enforcers and call them STUPID and LAZY(a common trait of filipinos bato-bato sa langit....)! They couldn't even answer well in front of the camera by the media, which is BTW, (media) also another culprit!

Point 3 - I'm just disappointed with a lot of hong kongers and chinese. Look at it this way guys. The chinese has been with our society in the Philippines for a very long time and we never really discriminate them - never. On the contrary, we even look up to them and respect. Then when I came over here sa HK grabe pala ang discrimination dito. Usually my predecessors just say "wag mo na lang pansinin yan" It's not fair. Then something like this happened. Eh di ano pa ba mangyayari - kung di mas grabe pa.

These are the bold truths and it's so IRONIC.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by celes on Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:18 pm

ronski_g wrote:You know everyone, I have several points here I wanted to voice out just to let you all kow.

Point 1 - This aftermath posts a very serious problem to us working here in HK. Can you imagine being in a territory were the victims of the world publicized hostage tragedy - are locals here!??! It's like being in the era of MARTIAL LAW back in the 70's and I'm not exaggerating.

Point 2 - Because of the people who were responsible for this terrible accident, WE would have to serve as a shock absorber to the angry locals and chinese that we need to face up every single day. As you may know, not all people - have an open mind. That's why you guys can't blame me if I want to shout out my dismay to our law enforcers and call them STUPID and LAZY(a common trait of filipinos bato-bato sa langit....)! They couldn't even answer well in front of the camera by the media, which is BTW, (media) also another culprit!

Point 3 - I'm just disappointed with a lot of hong kongers and chinese. Look at it this way guys. The chinese has been with our society in the Philippines for a very long time and we never really discriminate them - never. On the contrary, we even look up to them and respect. Then when I came over here sa HK grabe pala ang discrimination dito. Usually my predecessors just say "wag mo na lang pansinin yan" It's not fair. Then something like this happened. Eh di ano pa ba mangyayari - kung di mas grabe pa.

These are the bold truths and it's so IRONIC.

we empathize with you ronnie. keep it cool there bossing. fact is as filipinos we already have been labeled such and such and an incident like this just reinforces those biases. hope everything settles well in HK.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by ronski_g on Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:18 pm

I just saw in gma-news that the Philippines is sending delegates to Hong Kong to show respect and codolences. China stopped them and said to come when they're ready to present the complete reports of the entire investigation result - which BTW, they still don't have it.

See how our entire system a complete mess??!! Oo nga naman, anong gagawin mo doon?? Mag so-sorry ng paulit ulit?? (Dyan ulit tayo magaling). Of course you need to be prepare because as a government, we want to know what happen why our people died in your nation!

As far as I can tell, our country has a very very big problem. Grabe talaga. We don't need a natural catastrophe to destroy it. We're headed there with our present system.

So here is my two cents folks. You want to change it? Change yourself then afterwards try your best to AFFECT the next person because if you can't, it's just a waste. Then after you affect him/her, it doesn't stop there. Make sure that he/she will continue to affect others.... and so on.

If your rich and established, you can live well sa bansa natin but if you're in the lower class, apparently a majority, then you can't...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by arkiedmund on Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:52 am

relax lang ronski

pero ito lang talaga masasabi ko:

Unless di kayang sundin ng pinaka-common na pinoy ang pinaka basic man lang na rules gaya ng pagtapon ng basura, or pagtago man lang ng ticket ng bus sa bulsa nila..di mababago ang bansa natin. Yun lang.....yan pa lang kasi, di nila magawa, paano pa ang major laws ng bansa natin...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by northhigh on Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:34 am

ronski_g wrote:I just saw in gma-news that the Philippines is sending delegates to Hong Kong to show respect and codolences. China stopped them and said to come when they're ready to present the complete reports of the entire investigation result - which BTW, they still don't have it.

See how our entire system a complete mess??!! Oo nga naman, anong gagawin mo doon?? Mag so-sorry ng paulit ulit?? (Dyan ulit tayo magaling). Of course you need to be prepare because as a government, we want to know what happen why our people died in your nation!

As far as I can tell, our country has a very very big problem. Grabe talaga. We don't need a natural catastrophe to destroy it. We're headed there with our present system.

So here is my two cents folks. You want to change it? Change yourself then afterwards try your best to AFFECT the next person because if you can't, it's just a waste. Then after you affect him/her, it doesn't stop there. Make sure that he/she will continue to affect others.... and so on.

If your rich and established, you can live well sa bansa natin but if you're in the lower class, apparently a majority, then you can't...

true! thumbsup
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by northhigh on Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:34 am

arkiedmund wrote:relax lang ronski

pero ito lang talaga masasabi ko:

Unless di kayang sundin ng pinaka-common na pinoy ang pinaka basic man lang na rules gaya ng pagtapon ng basura, or pagtago man lang ng ticket ng bus sa bulsa nila..di mababago ang bansa natin. Yun lang.....yan pa lang kasi, di nila magawa, paano pa ang major laws ng bansa natin...

true! thumbsup
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bhanArt3d on Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:10 pm

kieko wrote:
bhanArt3d wrote:
kieko wrote:
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ERICK wrote:S.W.A.T. - Sugod! Wait... Atras!!! Takbo!!!


S.W.A.T. = Sana Wag Ako Tamaan



S.W.A.T. = Sorry Wala Akong Training

S.W.A.T. = Some Weapons And Techniques

Dto sa Hk sabi ng mga Hongkongers/Hongkongist

S.W.A.T. – Sorry, Without Any Training

some of them understand na nagyayari talaga to kahit saan , Yun nga lng I think This is the major tragedy na involve ang dalawang lugar , kaya medyo emotional pa din , at hindi ksi sila sanay n makaranas ng ganyan tragedy .. so tulad din nila I hope tayo mga pinoy understand what happen and try to do or not do para hindi grumabe ang balita ... like taking group pics on the site like a tourist spot ... kc tulad natin well inform din cla ...

And sa mga pinoy 3d guys and gals here in hk .. ingat and understand ...


tama yun..it happens and it can happen everywhere..

but the problem kasi which i believe kinagalit ng mga taga HK is yung mali maling diskarte ng mga pulis na ginawa..
ok sana kung talagang kahangahanga ang ginawa ng mga pulis na talagang mapapabilib ka na makikita mo ginawa ang lahat,
yun sa tingin ko magiging katanggap tanggap,

ang problema kasi, hindi ganun ang ginawa..

I agree bro yan talaga ang simpatya ng mga taga dto sa hk yun nga lng like a bad hollywood movie we're like the audience we can criticize all we what but again ano b nga nagagaw natin sa napanood natin? Dont get me wrong I condemmed what happen and the system, talagang mali ang diskarte ksi mali yung output .... when my wife and watching the news and she shouting barilin n!!! or mali !!! ang tatanga naman nila!! like we're watching a movie she like that , ang sabi ko nasasabi mo yan ksi hindi ikaw yung nandun matapang ka at alam mo yung diskarte ks hindi ikaw ang tataman ng bala as expected nagalit cya .. like I'm growing up sa street namin may binaril sa ulo habang naglalakad ako then when tinatanong kung sino bumaril lahat nang nandun wla nakakita in day time 3pm yun , mahurap talaga pag nasa tension ka even your trained cguro kso alam mo pwede ka mapahamak ... ang point ko lng alam n natin yan at nangyayari then what? Sa tingin ko hindi lng Goverment ang my Bad system tayo rin mga citizen parte rin ng bad system lalo kung it will affect our daly lives .. mahirap talaga noh , but that's life...

Buti na lng ever since I didn't have any experience of discrimation here in hk even now na nangyari to , yun nga lng pag may natatanong what happen sa tragedy n yan nakakahiya lng explain sa side ng isang pinoy but they understand , even the other expat here in hk ganon din nasasabi nila kahit sa UK nangyayari yan , kanina yung japanese n kaibigan ko nakibalita sa akin , sabi nya npanood nya sometime sa tokyo mas malala pa nangyari .

About sa corruption its exist anywhere even dto sa hongkong and sa ilang years ko sa dubai dami din ako nabalitaan dun .. yun nga lng iba iba lng paraan , yun nga lng sa atin medyo obivous .. its sad talaga na nagyari yan at na sensualised pa ... I hope the we have a peaceful recovery even may mga balita dto hk incident na kinakabit sa tragedy in manila.
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