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Post by celes on Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:47 am

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by arkiedmund on Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:14 pm

v_wrangler wrote:I offer prayers for the souls of the victims in this senseless killings.

Somebody ask what seems to be the problem of the Philippines.

The answers are simple.

1. There needs to be a culture overhaul if the Philippines want to live in peace and order.
2. Rrespect for authority.
3. Those who have authority should implement the law without bias. And those who have been given the privilidge to serve the community should respect the rights of those whom they serve.
4. Filipinos MUST learn the value of SELF=RESPONSIBILITY and remeber that this CULTURE OF DEPENDENCY is the root of all things evil. Your life is how you make it. You are poor because you chose to be one.
6. Respect the elders
7. The community first before self.
8. When you react, use your brain not your emotions. < this is the root cause of all Pinoy confrontations!

Amen.



i very much agree..
1. culture overhaul - train the kids not to be usiseros, Tanggalin na siguro ang UTANG NA LOOB culture, that's why philippine politics is at it's worse, as this is one of those root cause. These are my personal opinions per se..
2. Respect for authority - Too many law breakers in the country, i've said it, i'll say it again, even the simple rule of crossing at the proper places is not followed, how much more with the more serious laws that we have.
3. Implementing the law without bias....look at the singson kid, if the law was properly implemented, he would have been caught while still in our own country, and refer again to my take on the utang na loob thing. Just because the guilty party helped you in something, does not mean you should let him get away with a crime as payment for you so called utang na loob.
4. Self-responsibility - most of us does not have this. The throwing of garbage or littering for that matter is a concrete example of that. Heck, even some senior citizen would stuff the bus tickets at the back of the seat on a bus, how is that for showing the younger set some good manners.

We could go on, but the bottomline is change should start from ourselves....

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bokkins on Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:42 pm

v_wrangler wrote:My kids were watching the news in great disbelief.

Ayaw na nila pumunta sa Pilipinas.

You should bring them here. There are more than a million and one far more better good things about the Philippines compared to what happened. This happened in Japan, the US, and other places too. Mass suicide in Japan is even worse pero livable pa din di ba. 911 sa US is way worst than this, Tuloy pa din ang buhay.

Lets say madami tayong pagkukulang, not just the authorities or the president. Mantakin mo yan ang cause ng lahat ng ito ay isang pagkakamali sa parking violation noong unang panahon pa.

We need to rethink. And use this lesson from the past.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kurdaps! on Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:44 pm

bokkins wrote:
v_wrangler wrote:My kids were watching the news in great disbelief.

Ayaw na nila pumunta sa Pilipinas.

You should bring them here. There are more than a million and one far more better good things about the Philippines compared to what happened. This happened in Japan, the US, and other places too. Mass suicide in Japan is even worse pero livable pa din di ba. 911 sa US is way worst than this, Tuloy pa din ang buhay.

Lets say madami tayong pagkukulang, not just the authorities or the president. Mantakin mo yan ang cause ng lahat ng ito ay isang pagkakamali sa parking violation noong unang panahon pa.

We need to rethink. And use this lesson from the past.

-ditto-

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bongskeigle on Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:50 pm

system of a down.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by torvicz on Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:56 pm

Natatawa, naiinis at nagmumura ako sa nakikita ko habang pinapanood tong hostage taking nato. Katulad ng mga nasabin a dito about strategy, mukang bagsak talaga tayo. San ka ba naman nakikita nang magpe-penetrate tapos hihinto at magmamasid masid muna. Kung aatake ka dapat derederetso walang putol. Ang kaso dito, sumugod tapos huminto, tapos umatras, tapos nagmaso nang pinto at bintana.
Ang nakakatawa nito, hirap na hirap sa pag basag dahil ang la-laki ng tyan, tuloy napagod. Kaya nagpasapasahan sila, minsan pang nabitawan ang maso....haaaaaaaaayyy.

Biruin mo 1 against the AFP.

At isa pa, ANG MEDIA! sobrang maluwag tayo sa mga ito.
Meron pang pagkakataon na si Susan ng GMA, pumasok sa kordon ng pulis at ininterview yung kapatid ni mendoza. San ka nakakita nito? Only in the Philippines. Yan tuloy nakita ni Mendoza, natural magagalit yun....Kaya yun tuloy ang nangyari, and the rest is history....


But on the other hand, wala tayo sa scene.
That is why hindi ko rin masisi totally ang kapulisan natin.
They lack skills, and skills need money to acquire. Eh nasaan yung pondo para dito? WALA!!! nabulsa na eh, but this is a different story.

Wag nalang sanang maulit pa to, sana lang....

And just like any other news.......lilipas din to mga dude.
Kaya cool nalang tayo. Nangyari na eh.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by v_wrangler on Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:57 pm

bokkins wrote:
v_wrangler wrote:My kids were watching the news in great disbelief.

Ayaw na nila pumunta sa Pilipinas.

You should bring them here. There are more than a million and one far more better good things about the Philippines compared to what happened. This happened in Japan, the US, and other places too. Mass suicide in Japan is even worse pero livable pa din di ba. 911 sa US is way worst than this, Tuloy pa din ang buhay.

Lets say madami tayong pagkukulang, not just the authorities or the president. Mantakin mo yan ang cause ng lahat ng ito ay isang pagkakamali sa parking violation noong unang panahon pa.

We need to rethink. And use this lesson from the past.

They've been in the Philippines twice already and they love being with their relatives, but as a parent, it gives me the creeps to see them move around on their own. I admit that being used to the peace and quiet in most towns that we lved in - its hard to get used to the action and the confusion in the philippines.

Unless one could feel safe walking in the streets no matter what time of the day it is, and without the fear of being mugged or robbed - the Philippines will always be a destination that will come after careful second thoughts...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by qcksilver on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:12 am

throwing a tear gas without gas mask that is why atras muna masakit sa ilong, ano ba yan?! Sad
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by mokong on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:23 am

daming lapses sa part ng mga pulis.. they dont have control on the area where the hostage took place.. daming usyusero.. I think that the incident would not happen if they did not arrest the brother of the hostage taker. kulang talaga sa training ang mga pulis natin, tanong ko lang may training ba sila? hmmm.. i doubt it... Twisted Evil binubulsa lang cguro ng mga opisyales.. Ngayon natapos na ang insidente, what's next? TURUAN portion na? Lalabas na naman sa scene ang mga senador at congresaman para mabango sila sa mga mamayan, and they will give their point of view sa nangyari at susulong kaagad sila ng batas ukol dito.. It's time for them to shine again.. Pinoy talaga.. Kung saan may nangyari na dyan pa aaksyon..
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by Leslie Adona on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:42 am

Ako isa lang masasabi ko kahit na anong mangyari ...Im still Proud to be Pinoy 2thumbsup
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kurdaps! on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:45 am

This pop out into my mind today. Neutral

What if there's a hundred terrorists attack our country?

Huwag naman sana.... Neutral

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by celes on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:47 am

i hope this has in no manner affected the outcome of the miss universe pageant. tsk, i thought we had a knockout winner with ms. venus raj seems like the 4th place would suffice for now:D
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by Norman on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:49 am

qcksilver wrote:throwing a tear gas without gas mask that is why atras muna masakit sa ilong, ano ba yan?! Sad

lol!
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by jorgei2style on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:54 am

check this HK news paper Blow by blow ang info cant help but feel sorry for everything that has happened .

http://paper.thestandard.com.hk/

then type http://www.google.com.hk/ youll see it in black and white...


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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by whey09 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:47 am

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bizkong on Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:01 am

whey09 wrote:this is a letter from one of the hostage,

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=428983831714&id=631247210

thanks sir whey sa link. now, we know @ least what really happened inside the bus . may mali talaga sa mga pulis....... tsk,tsk,tsk!!!!
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by zdesign on Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:03 am

dito mo makikita ang kakulangan ng pinas sa mga ganitong situation...napaka weak ng mg apulis natin sa mga tactics 10 to 11 hours mapapagod talaga ang utak ng nang hostage kasi walang magaling na negotiator.nakakahiya talaga parang mga langgam ang mga pulis sa scene urong sulong,ewan ko ba?

sa scene na nakita kung papano ang kapulisan natin umatake worldwide tinatawanan tayo baka nga isang araw pasukin tayo kasi kita nila ang hina ng depensa natin susmaryosep sana wag naman...pray n alang tayo para sa family natin.


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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kurdaps! on Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:06 am

Timeline: Manila hostage crisis
08/24/2010 | 03:09 PM

The following is a chronology of events in the hostage crisis in Manila that turned bloody on Monday night, based on the live coverage of GMA News’ 24 Oras and Radio DZBB, and reports from BusinessWorld and Malaya newspapers:



# 10:15 a.m. – Dismissed Manila Police Mobile Patrol Unit chief Senior Inspector Rolando Mendoza boards tourist bus at Intramuros. He announces he is taking the 25 passengers hostage and stops the bus in front of Quirino Grandstand.

# 12:15 p.m. – First batch of hostages released, including three Chinese children.

# 3:00 p.m. – Deadline set by Mendoza for authorities to comply with his demands. Mendoza's brother SPO4 Gregorio Mendoza talks to him on the phone and convinces him to extend his deadline. [See: Ex-cop holds tourist bus passengers hostage in Manila]

# 6:00 p.m. -- The hostage-taker receives a letter from the Office of the Ombudsman promising a review of his case.

# 7:10 p.m. – Police arrest SPO4 Gregorio Mendoza after he becomes agitated. The hostage taker, who is monitoring the news on television, angrily tells an RMN anchor over the phone that he will start firing at the tourists if his brother is taken away. According to RMN, this is the last time Mendoza is heard on the air.

# 7:21 p.m. - First two shots, and then several others, are heard from the bus. Snipers fire at the wheels of the bus to immobilize the vehicle.

# 7:30 p.m. - The bus driver escapes, going straight to the mobile command of the National Capital Region Police Office and shouting that all the hostages had been killed.

# 7:37 p.m. - Members of a Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) team start to surround the bus. They use a sledge hammer to break down the door of the bus.

# 7:40 p.m. - More gunshots are heard. Police patrol cars start advancing towards the bus.

# 7:45 p.m. - Policemen close in and fasten a rope around the glass door to force it open.

# 7:51 p.m. - Police lob tear gas inside the bus.

# 8:04 p.m. - Another round of shots is heard, but it is unclear if it came from inside the bus.

# 8:10 p.m. - Police tug at the rope to pull the bus door open, but it snaps a few minutes later. One hostage could be seen slumped near the front door of the bus.

# 8:40 p.m. -Shots are fired again, though it is unclear whether they were coming from inside or outside the bus, which has been surrounded by police

# 8:45 p.m.. No longer ducking gunfire, police begin to approach the bus. They seem to be signaling to bystanders and media that the area has been secured. Michael Fajatin reports that a sniper says he has shot and killed the hostage-taker.

# Around 9:00 p.m. Police manage to open the rear emergency exit. No movement is seen inside the bus, but a light comes on. Police hesitate in entering the bus but eventually force their way in. Several hostages are seen walking out, while others are carried on stretchers and brought to waiting ambulances.

# 12:30 a.m. President Aquino gives a press conference about the hostage crisis.


— Jerrie Abella/Pia Faustino/LBG/YA/HS, GMANews.TV

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/199258/timeline-manila-hostage-crisis

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kurdaps! on Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:19 am

A reporter was quoted:

"It just showed the whole world that our govt specially the police authority is not ready to handle such an event . There are lots of loopholes that we saw during the abduction like not wearing proper gear that could cause more lives at stake, and it seems throwing a tear-gas into the hole of the bus glass without removing the safety pin. What a big insult to the authority."

Shocked Surprised

Tama ba to? Dahil ba sa nataranta na mga SWAT? tsk tsk tsk...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by nahumreigh on Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:38 am

Napansin ko lang most sa comments niyo mga sir purely sa pulis lang nakafocus. Pero naman kasi kahit ano pang training meron ka, kahit mukha mo lang ang walang armor, kahit training mo pa sa marines... eh kung bawat galaw niyo naman eh kitang kita naman sa TV... may wide angle coverage pa... may shots pa kung saan ka nakatagong nakapwesto, bale wala rin...

Maraming fault yung mga pulis diyan, lalo na dun sa pag aresto sa kapatid nung hostage taker. Pero kung kakasuhan yung mga pulis eh dapat same gravity din ng parusa sa media dahil sa sobrang irresponsible na journalism nila.

Yung nakikita nating account kasi from the media talaga. Kung papansinin niyo sa mga news ngayon parang lahat ng networks nilalayo na mga topic sa mga irresponsibility na media ang may kasalanan. Mismong BBC nga nagcomment na dapat may news blackout eh.

Ok na sa akin may sanctions sa Pulis... pero sobrang bumagsak din yung respeto ko dun sa mga sikat na newscasters natin... dapat may parusa din sa kanila kasi ilang dekada na ring irresponsable ang media natin.

Sa simula pa lang yung media na ang pinagkatiwalaan ni ginoong Mendoza... pero sila rin yung dahilan ng bulilyaso sa huli.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by owenski on Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:25 am

kat palmares wrote:
kurdaps! wrote:aftermath:WORST COUNTY TO VISIT-PHILS. Another slap on our FACE.

aftermath:
good thing: the government, pnp and media learned something,,,
bad thing:...it's from mistake.




bad thing pa po:..... it's too late.. ewan ko lang kung napapansin din 'to ng karamihan, dapat may mangyari muna bago gumawa ng adjustments, improvements, etc etc.... kailangan ba talaga ganito parati? pustahan dadami news about sa improvement sa gobyerno several weeks after, tapos several months after, magkalimutan na uli...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by markuz23 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:15 am

got this from twitter earlier ... http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=4640 everyone in media may brush up on this...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by nomeradona on Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:30 am

kalungkot. even during lunch with fellow teachers who often visit philippines as tourist destination, this was our topic.
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by arkiedmund on Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:00 am

as for the media thing...syempre...RATINGS ang iniisip ng mga yan palagi....sorry na lang sila, kasi di ako nanonood masyado ng local tv...maliban sa news, pero pakonti-konti lang...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by whey09 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:15 am

whey09 wrote:this is a letter from one of the hostage,

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=428983831714&id=631247210

sorry guys for this link, parang hindi ata totoo ito, to be confirmed pa,
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by cloud20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:55 am

Well, just to play devil's advocate; dito nga makikita na safe bumisita dito sa pinas dahil ayan o, kita naman, talagang hindi pinaghahandaan ang mga ganyang hostage hostage crises na yan dahil madalang na madalang lang mangyari yan dito sa pinas eh sa mga ibang bansa lang talaga madalas mangyari yan susme napaka good natured ng pinoy... Isolated case lang ito masyado lang talaga magreact ang mga tiga labas parang mga pigsang namumutok e kung tutuusin mas grabe pa nangyayari sa mga bansa nila alam nating lahat yan... Kala siguro nila di marunong mang hostage ang mga tsokolateng matsing...

You could either take me seriously or just take it with a pinch of salt...
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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by cloud20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:03 am

kurdaps! wrote:Nevertheless, I am still proud being a Filipino.
--- Yaan ang dapat laang... Hindi yung kadugo mo kinahihiya ka... Hindi yung nakatatak na sa utak nila na wala talaga ang pinoy...


Lintek...
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