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Post by celes on Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:47 am

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What a shame.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/08/23/philippines.bus.hostages/?hpt=T1#fbid=kXFr5HQvmZI&wom=false

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by cloud20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:03 am

kurdaps! wrote:Nevertheless, I am still proud being a Filipino.
--- Yaan ang dapat laang... Hindi yung kadugo mo kinahihiya ka... Hindi yung nakatatak na sa utak nila na wala talaga ang pinoy...


Lintek...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by cloud20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:09 am

bokkins wrote:
v_wrangler wrote:My kids were watching the news in great disbelief.

Ayaw na nila pumunta sa Pilipinas.

You should bring them here. There are more than a million and one far more better good things about the Philippines compared to what happened. This happened in Japan, the US, and other places too. Mass suicide in Japan is even worse pero livable pa din di ba. 911 sa US is way worst than this, Tuloy pa din ang buhay.

Lets say madami tayong pagkukulang, not just the authorities or the president. Mantakin mo yan ang cause ng lahat ng ito ay isang pagkakamali sa parking violation noong unang panahon pa.

We need to rethink. And use this lesson from the past.
--- Exactly! This could and DOES happen everywhere; well not up high in the Tibetan monasteries maybe, but it does happen... Stop bashing your own... Start finding your nationality again...

Kayo lang ha wag nyo na akong isali dyan...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by celes on Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:14 am

it's a simple case of everything going wrong - from the motive (who the hell knows whether the hostage taker is really unfairly dismissed?) which doesnt seem to merit the hostage taking, to the hostages (international folks), to the media (...who added up to the worsening situation by airing the violent arrest of the hostage taker's family), and to the police who blunder after blunder made a mess of the whole situation.

that supposed "letter" by one of the survivors sounds more like a propaganda. it's better to wait until things clear up.

compared to the other messed up situations (9/11 etc) this is a walk in the park really :p

it IS a shameful thing to happen but geez, this shouldn't affect the other positive aspects of being a filipino. in a few weeks this will all pass anyway.

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by v_wrangler on Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:33 am

My comment about my kids not wanting to go to the Philippines is as honest as the fear of the boogeyman. There is not a hint of shame or hate for their father's race but just the simple fear of any place that's new. Or anything that's beyond their comprehension. I need not mention how graphic the images from yesterdays news were. Small scale or not, how I wish peace and order is not something we ask for, it should be the norm.

Unfortunately for my kids, who happen to be ethnically mixed but totally alien to our culture, they do not have the same bias as we do for after we piece everything that had happened, after all our reklamos and display of shame nor fear or what have you, we always arrive at the conclusion that there are of course, far more better things than what had happened yesterday. All they care about is being able to soar, go play and enjoy the grounds they step unto without fear or terror... from the likes of the obakes. After all, they are kids.

I'm just posting again in the hopes that I won't be misinterpreted Embarassed

I am a Japanese heart but I am still the same tropical pinoy ass.

I pray for the bereaved.



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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by celes on Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:04 am

well said roy, being a father that's how i feel too. dont worry no misinterpretations there and i am not directing my post to anyone - just airing my views at this point in time. it's good to be ashamed because it somehow gives us a sense of solidarity - but what we do as an individual and as a nation after the incident is what matters.

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bobpen on Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:46 am

i think Philippines is still one of the safest place to live! its only isolated case and no one wants this to happen, be proud of our roots guys!!!

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by i_zight on Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:06 am

lets face this & overcome it, i hope sana di na ulit mangyari at may matutunan tayo, lets build it up again...

GodBless...=)

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by jaffi on Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:05 pm

sana wag i generalize buong Pilipinas.. Sad sa manila lang naman diba yun? ^^,

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by whey09 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:15 pm

from BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kieko on Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:28 pm

kahit ako im still proud and we can do something to get back on the map..

but i have to be honest to myself on with i see and heard in the news realtime during the incident..

"nakakahiya talaga ang nangyari at nagawa ng ating mga kapulisan"

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by jaffi on Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:33 pm

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agree.. isang kapalapakan talaga yung ginawa nila . parang na back to zero ang Pilipinas Sad

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by v_wrangler on Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:14 pm

Thanks Celes!

People here were affirming their pride, fine but guys, nobody questions our national pride for this is not even the time to aknowledge it.

This is just the time to mourn, this is the time to be ashamed.

This simple thought can only be understood once one is able to lift and place his spirits along with the families of those who passed away.

So guys, there could be far more better things about our motherland but today - its simply kankenai.

I am just as terribly ashamed.


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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by cloud20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:40 pm

v_wrangler wrote:Thanks Celes!

People here were affirming their pride, fine but guys, nobody questions our national pride for this is not even the time to aknowledge it.

This is just the time to mourn, this is the time to be ashamed.

This simple thought can only be understood once one is able to lift and place his spirits along with the families of those who passed away.

So guys, there could be far more better things about our motherland but today - its simply kankenai.

I am just as terribly ashamed.

---Yeah Vert, but they better mourn fast & get over it as soon as possible; some mourn their whole lives & never get over it & the slump they are in.
By the by, my barbs weren't aimed by your general direction; family comes first above anything else (second if you're religious)...

As for me, I've for quite sometime, decided to be a citizen of mankind...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by v_wrangler on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:02 am

Haha! don't worry kuya, I know you can be such an ass to others but not to me , we're made of the same tropical ass aren't we? Very Happy

I'm sure all this will be forgotten in due time, I'm just a little senti today Smile

See you soon!

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by j_helms05 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:08 am

S.W.A. lang ang naghandle... nawalan sila ng TACTICS... Sa bangayan at siraan lang kasi magaling mga namumuno satin...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by kieko on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:24 am

j_helms05 wrote:S.W.A. lang ang naghandle... nawalan sila ng TACTICS... Sa bangayan at siraan lang kasi magaling mga namumuno satin...

hehehe..ung nabasa ko sa isang link dito pati nga WEAPONS nila mali..ung mga baril daw, bakit riffle ang gamit, dapat daw Sub machine guns ang gamit dahil close contact..hehe..dapat 3-1, or 3-3..hehehe

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by Guest on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:30 am

ito ang nakakatuwa diyan eh.
ganito kaseryoso ang mga pinoy na naandun,
lalo na ang kapulisan,kaya di nakakapagtaka kung bakit ganun ang kinahinatnan
ganyan ang mga pulis ng pilipinas, walang disiplina,
wala sa puso nila ang pagsuot ng uniporme.nasa oras ng serbisyo at sensitibong sitwasyon kung ano ano
pang napagkakabalahan, ni hindi man lang nagpaalis ng mga batang usisero, kinunsinti na nakihalubilo pa.
sarap ihampas ng tsapa sa mukha .





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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bokkins on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:32 am

Malamang ganun lang ang laman ng armory. Kung may mga gamit tayong submachine gun, malamang ganun din ang sukbit ni mendoza, hindi m16.

Tamang tama ang comment nung expert sa bbc. Check nyo tong share ni whey.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by arkiedmund on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:34 am

@pressure: oo nga...dapat yung rehas na nandyan nasa 10,000 kilometers ang radius mula sa scene ng incident..para walang makapasok talaga..sa sobrang depekto ng pag iisip ng iba nating kababayan, tayo rin napapahamak.

Di ba natin pwedeng iwasan ang maki-usyoso?

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by phranq on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:40 am

sana lahat tao ganito kay idol.

http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/jackie-chan-expresses-grief-over-hostage-drama/

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by bokkins on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:43 am

phranq wrote:sana lahat tao ganito kay idol.

http://ph.yfittopostblog.com/2010/08/25/jackie-chan-expresses-grief-over-hostage-drama/

Ipopost ko din sana. Galing ni idol.

Excerpts from his post.

...Despite reports of discrimination against Filipinos in Hong Kong, Chan also assured that his country won’t encourage hate.

“HK is a nation built by a lot of different people..don’t worry! We do not hate!” said Chan. “Humans should be united and not kill or hate each other.” ...

Jacky Chan

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by whey09 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:45 am

cguro para maibalik ang trust ng mga HK nationals sa pagpunta dito, dapat pumunta dito si jackie chan

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by arkiedmund on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:46 am

ayos talaga si idol! dapat ganyan...don;t hate...spread the love dapat...

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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by torvicz on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:55 am

Ngayon ko lang nabasa tong kay idol jacky, bigla akong nilamig sa sinabi nya, lalo't kababayan nya yung mga victim.



hats off. then, salute.


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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by ortzak on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:56 am

Idol talaga hehe...^^

imho yung sa BUS flashbang+teargas ba yung tinapon..sa sobrang dami e baka lalong namatay mga hostages Mad

swat ba sa MPD wala manlang thermal scope kahit isa?


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Re: Hostage Situation in Manila

Post by v_wrangler on Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:58 am

torvicz wrote:Ngayon ko lang nabasa tong kay idol jacky, bigla akong nilamig sa sinabi nay, lalo't kababayan nya yung mga victim.



hats off. then, salute.

I had a dream last night. Jackie Chan was in the same bus and he beat the crap out of Mr. Mendoza enough to leave him stunned for the next 12 hours.


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