Architectural Thesis (II)

by pipicosis on Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:03 am

First topic message reminder :

start na po ng thesis namin, and wala pa po akong concrete proposal dahil po bawal po kami magkapare-pareho ng proposals.

-So ang focus ko po ay sa agriculture.

-problem: iilan nalang po ang kabataang nag-aaral ng agriculture, at wala na pong gustong maging farmer. which is i think bad for an agriculture country like Philippines (Actually, even in other countries like japan). nagiging tingin po kasi ng kabataan sa Farming ay dirty job. iniisip nila na old school ito at pawang matatanda nalang ang nagsasaka.

-solution: gusto ko po sanang pagandahin ang pangalan ng Agriculture dito sa bansa,(or sa mundo). like make it entertaining, or more like up to date, by including latest technology and design to make farming easy. kung kakulangan sa area for farming, dito na po papasok ang vertical farming (but not highrise).
Or kahit po maipakita sa mga kabataan kung ano ang halaga ng agriculture, o ng farming, at mabago ang mentality nila. considering the word "EDUTAINMENT"

-problema ko po: what will be my proposal?
a School?
a midrise housing for relocation with farming area?
a techno-agriculture facility?
a zoo for Plants?...terrarium?...theme park for agriculture? (includes ecotourism)
or any suggestions?

considering the availability of data, and my time, what would you prefer po?

by silvercrown on Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:46 pm

Gov't housing projects did exist. the BLISS projects of Marcos.
They have it in different forms, single detached units, duplex, row houses, midrise buildings...

I think there are gov't funded projects din during the last 15yrs, na midrise housing structures/ tenement... (if i could remember it correctly, the late comedian Rene Requistas lived on this type of dwelling nung wala na syang pera)
Those type of structures didn't worked well. substandard yung materials at construction...
Walang tubig, yung iba walang ilaw, walang elevator system, fire alarm system at Sprinkler system... And these needs huge amount of money for maintenance... ito yung problema, maintenance... Kung iaasa mo sa gobyerno walang mangyayari...

That's why private entities who help the poor build houses like Gawad Kalinga, Habitat for humanity goes for the detached system or row houses kase mas angkop sa lifestyle ng mga filipino...

You may pursue your midrise housing project (kase parang gustong-gusto mo talaga etong project), but it should be a private development, target mo yung working class housing market, kase marami sila, at maka-afford silang bumili ng units at pambayad ng maintenance...
Pwede mong incorporate yung vertical garden concept mo (i won't call it argriculture, it's too small of a scale...though it still falls under agriculture, lets call it a garden instead) then you can develop the roof tops into a sky garden, recreation, park, if you have a complex of these structures you can connect the rooftops with sky bridges, people can do their daily jogging, wallking sa roof tops complete with gazebos, plants, flowers and small trees... widen your scope, don't limit your creativity... (sana these features di makadagdag ng malaki sa cost ng project)
In thesis like this, you only have to prove to your jury the positive impact of the project to the environment and the people around it (w/c i think everything is positive) against of course the supposed cost of the project (is it practical? affordable? possible?)...

by pipicosis on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:53 pm

sir, i've formulated these set of ideas, while nasa byahe.
i think give up ko na nga iyong agriculture,
instead:

tenement for the upper levels, (3-6)
separate or connected by bridge po iyong vertical garden building

for the 2nd floor,
workshop room or rooms for seminar are provided for small seminars about weaving, stitching, handicrafts, etc. ( iyong ginagawa ng mga preso para mag karon ng income) i think, sakop din po ito ng TESDA courses.

ground floor, small stalls or market place, to be rented also by tenants, or mas preferred kung management nitong tenement ang mag handle nitong market? kung individual rentals po ng stalls, maaari kasi pong mag conflict or competition in terms of selling their goods, leading to lowering their prices, ending with very low income. on the other hand, kung management po ang may handle, mas mame-maintain po ang prices at ordinance po sa market.

pasensya na po, nagreport po kc ng brownout, kaya medyo nag mamadali po ako sa post...details po nalang sa susunod.
bounce

by jamesalbert on Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:34 am

pipicosis wrote:sir, i've formulated these set of ideas, while nasa byahe.
i think give up ko na nga iyong agriculture,
instead:

tenement for the upper levels, (3-6)
separate or connected by bridge po iyong vertical garden building

for the 2nd floor,
workshop room or rooms for seminar are provided for small seminars about weaving, stitching, handicrafts, etc. ( iyong ginagawa ng mga preso para mag karon ng income) i think, sakop din po ito ng TESDA courses.

ground floor, small stalls or market place, to be rented also by tenants, or mas preferred kung management nitong tenement ang mag handle nitong market? kung individual rentals po ng stalls, maaari kasi pong mag conflict or competition in terms of selling their goods, leading to lowering their prices, ending with very low income. on the other hand, kung management po ang may handle, mas mame-maintain po ang prices at ordinance po sa market.

pasensya na po, nagreport po kc ng brownout, kaya medyo nag mamadali po ako sa post...details po nalang sa susunod.

Ganitong development? Parang self contained development na ito sir at tingin ko malaking project na ito maraming behavioral analysis na ang maiinvolve dito pero maganda ito (in my opinion) kasi you will have your target users sa mga services na iooffer mo like sa mga stalls, market atbp. Parang city in a structure yung ganyang development. Nareserach ko ganyan ang ginawa sa roppongi hills sa japan na yung may ari ng lupa n kinatatayuan ng roppongi hills ay nagkaroon ng unit nung tinayo yun ngunit ang silbi ng development na iyon ay to maximize the use of land and not as your problem pero it might help in some aspects in my opninon lng hehehehe. Try to search the sky city 1000 which is a proposed development sa japan and roppongi hills pero mukhang talagang lumayo ka na sa idea mo noong una. pero if iincorporate mo yung idea ni sir silvercrown

silvercrown wrote:You may pursue your midrise housing project (kase parang gustong-gusto mo talaga etong project), but it should be a private development, target mo yung working class housing market, kase marami sila, at maka-afford silang bumili ng units at pambayad ng maintenance...
Pwede mong incorporate yung vertical garden concept mo (i won't call it argriculture, it's too small of a scale...though it still falls under agriculture, lets call it a garden instead) then you can develop the roof tops into a sky garden, recreation, park, if you have a complex of these structures you can connect the rooftops with sky bridges, people can do their daily jogging, wallking sa roof tops complete with gazebos, plants, flowers and small trees... widen your scope, don't limit your creativity... (sana these features di makadagdag ng malaki sa cost ng project)
In thesis like this, you only have to prove to your jury the positive impact of the project to the environment and the people around it (w/c i think everything is positive) against of course the supposed cost of the project (is it practical? affordable? possible?)...

you may research on ideas of ken yeang kaso high rise na yung development na ito eh depende sayo if maghigh rise ka. May nagthesis na kasi samin about vertical farming eh at in reality maintenance pa lang ng ganitong development ay mataas na kasi sa technology pa lang na gagamitin.

by pipicosis on Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:09 pm

Sir jamesalbert, salamat po sa pag daan! na-search ko na po iyong roponggi hills at sky city 1000 both in japan, ayos po iyong concept, somewhat ganon nga po itong proposal, pero hindi naman po ganon kalaki. kung tutuusin maliit po talaga itong proposal na to, dahil sa housing lang po ito, at midrise pa. about naman po sa permaculture designs, hindi rin naman po kasing lawak ang reason nito katulad kay ken yeang po. hindi po talga siya vertical farming, masyado po ito maliit para matawag na farming (i guess) maliit lang po talaga, and i think maintenance can be handled through design.

salamat po ulit sa pagdaan, opo lumayo na po talaga ako sa idea ko po noong una, pero dahil naman po iyon sa mga info na nakukuha ko regarding farming.

bounce

by silvercrown on Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:12 am

It's time to consolidate your concept & ideas...
Layout the requirements of your project.
And get ready to formulate the best solution for you project.
Goodluck!

by jamesalbert on Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:25 pm

silvercrown wrote:It's time to consolidate your concept & ideas...
Layout the requirements of your project.
And get ready to formulate the best solution for you project.
Goodluck!

I second that emotion

by pipicosis on Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:11 am

good day sir! nagpa-consult po ako kanina for approval, and pinabasa ko po sa prof ko po iyong demand and land use plan ng Rizal, apparently may modifications po sa proposal, bali po mag oopen nalang po ako ng bagong thread. salamat po bounce

by pipicosis on Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:02 pm

this is the link for the new thread, please take a look and leave your comment as well, thanks

http://www.cgpinoy.org/t19358-architectural-thesis-iii

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