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Post by princedaguz13 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:57 pm

pasensya na po wala ako magawa ngayon so naisip ko na lang kunin opinion ninyo sa trilogy na ito. sana wala pa nakapagpost nito
So here is my opinion, hindi ko napanood ng live ung laban so i decided to check online scoring done by yahoo and sites with live commentating. Base on what they've post there with every round recaps e medyo parang nakakainis kasi exaggerated and quite awkward ung mga statements. so i made comments also sa fb na it was indeed a robbery.(inis na inis ako kay pacman)i had the chance to watch it last night but for the review.....magalit na ung magagalit but I was wrong. it was a closed fight but PACMAN really won the fight....try to review it for yourselves para makita nyo rin. siguro nasanay lang tayo sa mga laban nya na may KO. but anyways, this is just my opinion. he really won the fight...kudos also to marquez!
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by Rogan on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:03 am

oo nga bro, review ko din yung reply, lamang masyado si pacqiuao sa round,. pareho tayo bro yung pinanood ko yung live parang talo siya pero sa reply lamang pala masyado.. hindi maging ganun ang mukha ni marquez if hindi yun tinatamaan..
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by Rogan on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:09 am

112-116 din ang score ko,, ano sa iyo bro? heheeh 4 rounds lng napanalonan ni marquez sa score ko.. hindi ko lang matandaan anong round andun kasi sa bahay lista ko heheh..
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by princedaguz13 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:16 am

Rogan wrote:112-116 din ang score ko,, ano sa iyo bro? heheeh 4 rounds lng napanalonan ni marquez sa score ko.. hindi ko lang matandaan anong round andun kasi sa bahay lista ko heheh..


i gave jmm 4 rounds also...especially the middle rounds 7 & 8.... u will notice rounds 10-12 he started to diminish. so how possibly he could win that fight? i agree with the unofficial scorecards than by LBC during commercials.
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by torvicz on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:24 am

Marquez won the fight, simply because basang basa nya yung mga galaw ni Manny. I've never seen Manny fight like this, masyadong off ang mga tirada nya this time, napaghandaan talaga sya ni marquez. Wala yung mga sunod sunod nyang suntok, halatang takot syang sumugal baka ma-counter ni Marquez eh. Buti nalang at pumabor ang judges sa kanya.
Good for us Filipinos.

Lesson kay Marquez, dapat maging agrisibo sya next time at wag counter lang at wag na wag nyang iaasa sa judges ang kapalaran nya.
Kay Manny, sana ibalik nya yung dating laro nya, yung exciting, kahit sabihin nilang matalino na yung mga galaw nya ngayon, mas gusto ko parin yung slugger sya, mas exciting kasi sya sa ganung laban at dun sya minahal ng mga tao, pinoy man o ibang lahi.

Next time sana wala nang rounds, matira matibay na lang...Smile
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by Valiant on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:46 am

Although Pacquaio won it's not that convincing and I felt Marquez was robbed considering the power punch ratio and the intimidating factor na ibinigay nya kay Pacman. Pero boxing is a professional sport, meaning it's a business too... Pacquiao is a good investment kaya money wise para matuloy ang laban nila ni Mayweather he "must" win... plus the fact na sya ang champion kaya dapat talaga si Marquez ang mas aggressive and not just settle sa counter punching lang... halata din na hindi confident si Pacman na s'ya ang mananalo kaya pag-announced para syang nabuhusan ng tinik Twisted Evil if Dinamita knocked-down our Pinoy pride kahit isang beses lang the decision will be different but of course it's a wishful thinking... anyway... Marquez is good but Pacman is better...

naisip ko baka diskarte lang to' nina Roach and the gang para mapaisip si Mayweather na mahina na si Pacman at sa wakas ay pumayag ng labanan ang Pinoy Pride Twisted Evil


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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by mokong on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:46 am

for me it could go the either way, but the judges gives the round to the stronger, aggressive, volume of punches landed and of course defending champion.

A win is win, something we could proud of Filipinos. Ika nga sa kanta ni Manny, "Laban ko, laban niyo, laban nating lahat". Ewan ko ba sa iba nating kababayan, pag nanalo si manny ng knockout all praises to him, pero pag hindi or agrabyado sa laban daming istorya keso ganito keso ganyan si manny. Nasanay lang kasi tayo sa ibang laban ni manny but ito talagang kay marquez nahirapan siya o sabihin na nating off night but he showed his heart fight to the very end.

In most cases sa boxing there are decisions like this in which we can say na magaling silang dalawa dahil umabot sa decision, controversial nga nating sabihin but it is far more better than a fight ENDED IN A SUCKER PUNCH!!! Twisted Evil
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by bongskeigle on Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:49 am

not that much entertaining. both fighters were just so careful.
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by princedaguz13 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:00 am

if there was a voting like in the "fliptop" thing... I would go for an OT.
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by yaug_03 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:03 am

Marquez is not a good fighter, he was a "kind fighter" (he won't punch unless you punched him:P)

But seriously, if there would be another pacquiao-marquez fight,magmumukhang luto ulit laban dahil magiging close scoring ulit ang laban, unless pacman or marquez could knock each other out.
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by torvicz on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:07 am

We are Filipinos and we love Manny, but let's face it, we lost fair and square..

Ayaw rin naman nating satin mangyari to, di ba?
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by Rogan on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:10 am

tama yung desisyon, question lang ako sa draw na score paano nag draw yun.. may mga rounds na mahirap e score pero ibinibigay yun sa agrisibo,, malinis lang patama ni marquez, yung ka pacman puro quick punch lang pero pasok yun, score un.. sa first half apat ka pacman dun klaro sa kanya..kasi dun sa mahirap e score sa kanya un kasi siya agrressive.. tapos second half sigurado tatlo sa kanya taz may round na mahirap e skor..
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Post by markitekdesign on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:24 am

bongskeigle wrote:not that much entertaining. both fighters were just so careful.

agree ako dito.. 2thumbsup
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Post by i3dness on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:47 am

Valiant wrote:Although Pacquaio won it's not that convincing and I felt Marquez was robbed considering the power punch ratio and the intimidating factor na ibinigay nya kay Pacman. Pero boxing is a professional sport, meaning it's a business too... Pacquiao is a good investment kaya money wise para matuloy ang laban nila ni Mayweather he "must" win... plus the fact na sya ang champion kaya dapat talaga si Marquez ang mas aggressive and not just settle sa counter punching lang... halata din na hindi confident si Pacman na s'ya ang mananalo kaya pag-announced para syang nabuhusan ng tinik Twisted Evil if Dinamita knocked-down our Pinoy pride kahit isang beses lang the decision will be different but of course it's a wishful thinking... anyway... Marquez is good but Pacman is better...

naisip ko baka diskarte lang to' nina Roach and the gang para mapaisip si Mayweather na mahina na si Pacman at sa wakas ay pumayag ng labanan ang Pinoy Pride Twisted Evil


ganun din ang naisip tactics nina Roach para lumaban si Mayweather...
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Post by Agda on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:54 am

Valiant wrote:Although Pacquaio won it's not that convincing and I felt Marquez was robbed considering the power punch ratio and the intimidating factor na ibinigay nya kay Pacman. Pero boxing is a professional sport, meaning it's a business too... Pacquiao is a good investment kaya money wise para matuloy ang laban nila ni Mayweather he "must" win... plus the fact na sya ang champion kaya dapat talaga si Marquez ang mas aggressive and not just settle sa counter punching lang... halata din na hindi confident si Pacman na s'ya ang mananalo kaya pag-announced para syang nabuhusan ng tinik Twisted Evil if Dinamita knocked-down our Pinoy pride kahit isang beses lang the decision will be different but of course it's a wishful thinking... anyway... Marquez is good but Pacman is better...

naisip ko baka diskarte lang to' nina Roach and the gang para mapaisip si Mayweather na mahina na si Pacman at sa wakas ay pumayag ng labanan ang Pinoy Pride Twisted Evil
Tama ka sir valiant.... Naisip ko rin yun.... Baka trap lang ito ng team pacman... So baka distracted lang din si pacman.... Very Happy
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by bongskeigle on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:55 am

markitekdesign wrote:
bongskeigle wrote:not that much entertaining. both fighters were just so careful.

agree ako dito..

yup bro, both fighters are good.

one wrong move, could end one on the canvass.Very Happy

manny is open for another fight, "any fight".

let us be proud, as the mexicans.
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Post by nomeradona on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:00 am

I did not manage to see the live one. I got some different opinions all over. from espn. from hbo, sa facebook etc. yung tema ay pareho nito. I managed to download the whole video of the fight and i watch it of course i had already the feedback from the different sides. I kept replaying stuff and tried to analyzed round by round ayun napuyat. I had no doubt the fight was so close until the last 12th round. It can either go to anyone of them. Marquez did managed to hit some of the hard shots. But Pacquiao led most of the round with number of punches given and landed. It was all about the style. Marquez crafty counterpunching is very intimidating with Manny. This was the plan of Marquez. The main arsenal of Pacman was inhibited (parang naparalize nga). Now the question is what if tira ng tira si Pacquiao. could he win? maybe and maybe not. He choose to be more wiser in his fight. Entertaining not at all. Its all about winning (parang Mayweather). Even Manny's corner knows about it.. therefore if the tactic was sugod and sugod malamang talo sya o maka chamba. So Roach and Bubuy had told him many times to do forward strike and atras.

Again it can go either way. Unfortunately judges often give favor to the one who execute the offense more. yung umaatake hindi yung naghihintay. Yung agressor, hindi yung counter attack lang. Now if both of them are tied in everything, it will just really boils down kung sino ang agressor. Did the judges rob Marquez the fight? I dont think so. The judging was very fair if you will see again and again the replay. You have to blame his Marquez corner. They told him that he was winning. So in the end Marquez played safe in the last round. If he became agressive perhaps it was a draw....

I beleive Roach, and Manny did learn from this. I know people will do counterpunching with Manny, it was proven this as his Achiles' heals. I am sure Mayweather will do the same, if Manny and Floyd will meet. But I bet. Roach and Manny will try to move one step ahead in countering fighters who are tactician and employing like what Marquez did.
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Re: PACQUIAO-MARQUEZ 3

Post by torvicz on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:18 am

I don't think it's a tactic to make Floyd fight Manny, that's ridiculous.
Knowing Manny, di naman nya kelangan maghabol ng laban. Sa part ni Floyd siguro, baka maisipan nyang labanan na si Manny kasi perhaps nakakita sya ng weakness kay Manny, but for Manny to make it as a tactic, I don't think so. Remember, Roach predicted a 1st round knockout.
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Post by ERICK on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:22 am

nomeradona wrote:I did not manage to see the live one. I got some different opinions all over. from espn. from hbo, sa facebook etc. yung tema ay pareho nito. I managed to download the whole video of the fight and i watch it of course i had already the feedback from the different sides. I kept replaying stuff and tried to analyzed round by round ayun napuyat. I had no doubt the fight was so close until the last 12th round. It can either go to anyone of them. Marquez did managed to hit some of the hard shots. But Pacquiao led most of the round with number of punches given and landed. It was all about the style. Marquez crafty counterpunching is very intimidating with Manny. This was the plan of Marquez. The main arsenal of Pacman was inhibited (parang naparalize nga). Now the question is what if tira ng tira si Pacquiao. could he win? maybe and maybe not. He choose to be more wiser in his fight. Entertaining not at all. Its all about winning (parang Mayweather). Even Manny's corner knows about it.. therefore if the tactic was sugod and sugod malamang talo sya o maka chamba. So Roach and Bubuy had told him many times to do forward strike and atras.

Again it can go either way. Unfortunately judges often give favor to the one who execute the offense more. yung umaatake hindi yung naghihintay. Yung agressor, hindi yung counter attack lang. Now if both of them are tied in everything, it will just really boils down kung sino ang agressor. Did the judges rob Marquez the fight? I dont think so. The judging was very fair if you will see again and again the replay. You have to blame his Marquez corner. They told him that he was winning. So in the end Marquez played safe in the last round. If he became agressive perhaps it was a draw....

I beleive Roach, and Manny did learn from this. I know people will do counterpunching with Manny, it was proven this as his Achiles' heals. I am sure Mayweather will do the same, if Manny and Floyd will meet. But I bet. Roach and Manny will try to move one step ahead in countering fighters who are tactician and employing like what Marquez did.

oh what an insight, very nice observation, halos pareho lang din tayo ng punto... hindi nananalo ang taong naghihintay lang ng may sumuntok sabay counterpunch...
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Post by Rogan on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:29 am

agree with sir nomer,, paulit-ulit ko din pinanood yung laro,, pacqiuao talaga nanalo..
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Post by torvicz on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:36 am

I beleive Roach, and Manny did learn from this. I know people will do
counterpunching with Manny, it was proven this as his Achiles' heals. I
am sure Mayweather will do the same, if Manny and Floyd will meet. But I
bet. Roach and Manny will try to move one step ahead in countering
fighters who are tactician and employing like what Marquez did.

Precisely the point dude Nomer, Marquez beats Manny through counter punching, just because a fighter is a counter puncher doesn't mean he's a weaker fighter, it's a style, it's a technique. Marquez landed more punches than Manny, it's very clear in every round replays. 1-2 lang ng 1-2 si Manny eh, wala yung dating laro nya, na-neutralize ni Marquez.
Ibang iba sa mga naunang fights nila.

Pasalamat lang talaga at nanalo sa decision.
Don't get me wrong ha? Kay Manny pa rin ako syempre.
Napaguusapan lang naman.
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Post by Agda on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:40 am

torvicz wrote:I beleive Roach, and Manny did learn from this. I know people will do
counterpunching with Manny, it was proven this as his Achiles' heals. I
am sure Mayweather will do the same, if Manny and Floyd will meet. But I
bet. Roach and Manny will try to move one step ahead in countering
fighters who are tactician and employing like what Marquez did.

Precisely the point dude Nomer, Marquez beats Manny through counter punching, just because a fighter is a counter puncher doesn't mean he's a weaker fighter, it's a style, it's a technique. Marquez landed more punches than Manny, it's very clear in every round replays. 1-2 lang ng 1-2 si Manny eh, wala yung dating laro nya, na-neutralize ni Marquez.
Ibang iba sa mga naunang fights nila.

Pasalamat lang talaga at nanalo sa decision.
Don't get me wrong ha? Kay Manny pa rin ako syempre.
Napaguusapan lang naman.
Agree ako....
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Post by torvicz on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:44 am

Sana mala Junior Dos Santos at Cain ang nangyari para walang usapan. hehe

Grabeng laban!

Sorry OT.
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Post by whey09 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:53 am

i haven't seen the fight yet, pero base sa mga feedbakcs nyo, it seems na Marquez boxed better but Pacquiao landed the most box, parang "QUALITY vs. QUANTITY"
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Post by princedaguz13 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:01 am

nomeradona wrote:I did not manage to see the live one. I got some different opinions all over. from espn. from hbo, sa facebook etc. yung tema ay pareho nito. I managed to download the whole video of the fight and i watch it of course i had already the feedback from the different sides. I kept replaying stuff and tried to analyzed round by round ayun napuyat. I had no doubt the fight was so close until the last 12th round. It can either go to anyone of them. Marquez did managed to hit some of the hard shots. But Pacquiao led most of the round with number of punches given and landed. It was all about the style. Marquez crafty counterpunching is very intimidating with Manny. This was the plan of Marquez. The main arsenal of Pacman was inhibited (parang naparalize nga). Now the question is what if tira ng tira si Pacquiao. could he win? maybe and maybe not. He choose to be more wiser in his fight. Entertaining not at all. Its all about winning (parang Mayweather). Even Manny's corner knows about it.. therefore if the tactic was sugod and sugod malamang talo sya o maka chamba. So Roach and Bubuy had told him many times to do forward strike and atras.

Again it can go either way. Unfortunately judges often give favor to the one who execute the offense more. yung umaatake hindi yung naghihintay. Yung agressor, hindi yung counter attack lang. Now if both of them are tied in everything, it will just really boils down kung sino ang agressor. Did the judges rob Marquez the fight? I dont think so. The judging was very fair if you will see again and again the replay. You have to blame his Marquez corner. They told him that he was winning. So in the end Marquez played safe in the last round. If he became agressive perhaps it was a draw....

I beleive Roach, and Manny did learn from this. I know people will do counterpunching with Manny, it was proven this as his Achiles' heals. I am sure Mayweather will do the same, if Manny and Floyd will meet. But I bet. Roach and Manny will try to move one step ahead in countering fighters who are tactician and employing like what Marquez did.


sir nomer, this is a very good observation. i do agree of what you've said here. because if you watch it live you'll be having a 2nd thought that it should be awarded to Marquez. but i also watched the replay and it CONVINCED me that Manny was the real winner here. no offense sa mga maka JMM. pero that is the truth. ito na lang, just base the scoring sa last 3 rounds 10-12 marquez was on safe mode he thought he was leading. ang mali lang talaga dito masyado tayo nagEXPECT which Manny failed to do so. and i dont also believe this was just a bait for Mayweather...i dont think so guys. round 9 he was trying to knock marquez out but masyado talagang mailap ang tadhana sa kanya nung gabing yun.if mayweather vs pacquiao thats another story.... i love to see manny winning coz my mind and heart as a filipino goes for him but i would pick fmj for that one. well enough said, at the end of the day its still Manny who knows the reason why. we're just here as filipinos supporting for him. sana maging happy na lang tayo sa naging outcome Very Happy
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