Rhino 3D

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hi CGPeeps!

I am quite curious of Rhino 3D as a friend from the US mentioned it to me....meron bang training school here sa pinas that offers Rhino 3D lessons ? and what are the pros and cons of Rhino 3D versus 3D Studio Max ? Hope you could pitch in your opinions and suggestions, big big thanks

thanks tutik great presentation too sa 3dsmax mo ba nirender un' using vray? btw... i am not against rhino because to each it's own may kanya-kanya naman talagang limitations at galing ang mga programs... kung accuracy naman... i believed pagdating sa actual execution may mga + and - din yan... in the end magkakaroon din ng allowable margin of error kaya there is no such thing as perfect software in modeling...

last na to' para sa'yo karaoke este ciraoke ba?... anong kinalaman ng pagiging pinoy para ka maging mas magaling sa caucasians?

pasensya na bok...

cloud20 wrote:Okay; Rhino is a very good software..
But to say Max users suck just to prove that point is just plain STUPID.

Which negates whatever mathematical skills you have..

like hahaha

ayus to, yung marunong mag rhino 3d labas na ninyo yung resulta ng render. kapag ayus gusto ko rin mag try ng rhino 3d.

ako bodoy! hahaha...

damage16 wrote:ayus to, yung marunong mag rhino 3d labas na ninyo yung resulta ng render. kapag ayus gusto ko rin mag try ng rhino 3d.

ako bodoy! hahaha...

useless because quality render is not only based on the software itself. pangmodel ang rhino di sya pang render at kung i-partner mo sya sa vray o ibang renderers di pa dun magtatapos ang quality ng composition mo nasa lighting pa, texturing etc. It's still the artist not the tool. I've provided lots of links na paki back read na lang. Again, no to software war kasi dapat apple to apple pag nagcocompare tayo.

tutik wrote:

Valiant wrote:nice info naborghsoj08

@all >>> what about rhino vs. zbrush? does maya nurbs not good enough vs. rhino? hindi ba't powerful din ang mel scripting ng maya? do i need to compare 3dsmax vs. rhino?

di dapat paghambingin ang rhino (parametric modelling tool) vs. zbrush (sculpting tool) etc. bagamat pwede silang gamitin pareho as visual tools. nabanggit ang 'skillsets' o kakayahan ng gumagamit -- yan siguro ay isang aspeto kung bakit nagkakatalo. isa pang aspeto ang abilidad ng software na bumuo at magrevise ng modelo sang ayon sa ninanais na presisyon sa sukat at magpaiba-iba ng hugis. malaki ang advantage ng rhino o parametric tools (ng ibang softwares gaya ng 3dmax) dahil kadalasan ang disenyo ay nagbabago bago.

nasa packaging din yan at depende kung aling package ang mas logical o may mas malawak na tools na aangkop sa paggagamitan. kaya siguro mas lamang at popular ang 3dsmax dahil mas kumpleto ang tools nya (for general requirements like architecture or interior design). pero kung mga high-end productions ang pag uusapan, di lang isang tools ang maaaring gamitin.

share ko lang isang project na dinisenyo ni Daniel Libeskind:

although meron na silang 3dmax, Rhino pa rin ang napili nilang gamitin sa pagmodelo. Ibig sabihin may ibang antas ang tools ng Rhino pagdating sa pagbuo ng mga ganitong klaseng disenyo. rendering at creative inputs sa developer at ad agency po ang naging inputs ng inyong lingkod sa proyektong ito.

they've used rhino to easily make 2d documentations. 3d based sila magdesign magstart sa form concept tapos ayan magkakaroon na ng plans etc. ang dami kasing features ng rhino from 2d documentations to 3d up to analysis na hindi ka na aalis sa rhino
links to show what it can do but not limited to only this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIEbzaStwzo
http://vimeo.com/18666799
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvrWHHHToKA
http://vimeo.com/3995118
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIwBY6r9idM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQ3UvDurW0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjsoylZa5Y
http://designreform.net/2008/05/rhino-implicit-history-and-flow-along-surface
http://www.youtube.com/user/GeometryGym
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0DPI2aKBzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELBe_pBK54I
http://www.youtube.com/user/tsplines?v=-4LwjqRTBWM&feature=pyv&ad=6252130193&kw=rhino3d
http://jarek-rhinoscripts.blogspot.com/2009/09/armadillo.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dkLZR2QuIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPINynKwoM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfRUC3-35mU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvti9kQAbyY

integrations
http://vimeo.com/12619409
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmo9R97APNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bnINss-6SE

rhino-3dsmax workflow
http://designreform.net/2008/05/rhino-to-3ds-max

posting a script soon to automate offsetting lines & curves, that would otherwise strainous to do in autocad (if they are extremely numerous), offset algo would be based on object color, default color,then to select new objects(the offseted ones),click at a location, user input size opening,then trim...delete unnecessary lines, then draws the door.

still wip.......


For Each c In curve


If curveStart(1) = curveEnd(1) Then
xformPlane = Rhino.PlaneFromFrame (curveMid, Array(1,0,0), Array(0,1,0))
End If


If curveStart(0) = curveEnd(0) Then
xformPlane = Rhino.PlaneFromFrame (curveMid, Array(0,1,0), Array(1,0,0))
Else
curveVec = Rhino.VectorCreate (curveStart,curveMid)
Rhino.CopyObject curve(ctr), curveMid ,ptRemapAxyz
Rhino.CopyObject curve(ctr), curveMid ,ptRemapBxyz

refplane = Rhino.PlaneFromFrame (Array(0,0,0),Array(1,0,0), Array(0,1,0))
End If


points = Rhino.AddPoints (Array(ptA,ptB))

ptRemap = Rhino.RemapObjects (Array(points(0),points(1)),refplane,xformPlane,vbTrue)
ptRemapAxyz =Rhino.PointCoordinates (ptRemap(0))
ptRemapBxyz =Rhino.PointCoordinates (ptRemap(1))

Rhino.ObjectColor Array(ptRemap(0),ptRemap(1)),co(0,0,255)


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naborghsoj08 wrote:

they've used rhino to easily make 2d documentations. 3d based sila magdesign magstart sa form concept tapos ayan magkakaroon na ng plans etc. ang dami kasing features ng rhino from 2d documentations to 3d up to analysis na hindi ka na aalis sa rhino
links to show what it can do but not limited to only this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIEbzaStwzo
http://vimeo.com/18666799
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvrWHHHToKA
http://vimeo.com/3995118
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIwBY6r9idM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQ3UvDurW0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjsoylZa5Y
http://designreform.net/2008/05/rhino-implicit-history-and-flow-along-surface
http://www.youtube.com/user/GeometryGym
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0DPI2aKBzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELBe_pBK54I
http://www.youtube.com/user/tsplines?v=-4LwjqRTBWM&feature=pyv&ad=6252130193&kw=rhino3d
http://jarek-rhinoscripts.blogspot.com/2009/09/armadillo.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dkLZR2QuIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cPINynKwoM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfRUC3-35mU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvti9kQAbyY

integrations
http://vimeo.com/12619409
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmo9R97APNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bnINss-6SE

rhino-3dsmax workflow
http://designreform.net/2008/05/rhino-to-3ds-max

salamat sa links dude! talagang may kakaibang powers ang rhino

nalimutan ko si rhino terrain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcp6oBPdovw

worked with ZAHA HADID on chaoyangmen galaxy soho 2 years ago in beijing as interior design consultant sa showroom, kaya napilitang matutu ng rhino, in the end kinonvert pa rin sa 3dmax yung model para sa CNC ng GRG at FRP dito sa china e 3dmax din and gamit sa CNC machine nila, ang isang advantage e madali i convert sa autocad yung mga cross sections para sa construction drawings.

some of my rhino works
my apartment design 1 by artedesenyo, this is my apartment design

and this is the project i worked for zaha, http://www.nathanielmcmahon.com/blog/tag/soho/ , if im not mistaken yung company ni celes ang nag render ng exterior nito.

Much better kung matutunan mo lahat yan sayo pa din ang favor... kung ano yun trending na software dapat matutunan para kahit papano makakasunod ka... by learning center man yan o self study... I'm starting Rhino, Zbrush, Maya, Softimage... self study lang... I think what important is yun willingness mo matuto... Yun ang magdadala sayo para matuklasan mo yun ganda ng programs o software...

Peace

tma po sir jvt.. hehe ako po marunong na po ako mag rhino ang dali lang po kasi eh lalo na ung grasshopper ang sarap pag laruan,atsaka yong t-spline din po ang dali lang po .. parang outocad lang po kasi eh!...

mag tutorial nalang kaya kayo sir ciaoriki ng rhino dito para me mapala kami kaysa debatihin natin to..ako 3dsmax ,sketchup ,autocad,corel draw at , photoshop lang tsaka d naman po kami bobo sa math ...it fist me off pag me nag under estimate sa tao... math olympiad ako nung araw graduated with honors pero hindi ito ang sukatan ng success or pagkatao people should learn how to respect other people you never know mas marami pa pala syang alam based on experience. theres a lot of people here earn more money but they did not fin studies...in college etc..

. i just hope we can learn from your technique nalang sir ..sharing knowledge is the best way to achieve mastery.

takecare ingat nalang po sa mga words para hindi makasakit ng iba..

arch_mirasol wrote:mag tutorial nalang kaya kayo sir ciaoriki ng rhino dito para me mapala kami kaysa debatihin natin to..ako 3dsmax ,sketchup ,autocad,corel draw at , photoshop lang tsaka d naman po kami bobo sa math ...it fist me off pag me nag under estimate sa tao... math olympiad ako nung araw graduated with honors pero hindi ito ang sukatan ng success or pagkatao people should learn how to respect other people you never know mas marami pa pala syang alam based on experience. theres a lot of people here earn more money but they did not fin studies...in college etc..

. i just hope we can learn from your technique nalang sir ..sharing knowledge is the best way to achieve mastery.

takecare ingat nalang po sa mga words para hindi makasakit ng iba..

sir, sobrang agree ako dyan. pareho lng tayo ng ability sa softwares pero nagkakatalo na yan sa exp. sana naman magshare na lang ng nalalaman kaysa sa manlait pa tayo ng tao.

salamat nga pala sa mga masters ng cgp. dami kong natutunan dito kahit self study lang ako.

Sinabihan ka lng ng amerikano na autocad sucks at 3d max primitive naniwala kana agad sir?..idol ko pa naman si alex roman,simonhc, marek denko etc.. eh mga 3D max user ang mga yun..heheheh..

thank you kay sir naborghsoj08. na curious tuloy ako sa RHINO na yan lalo na sa mga links na binigay ..[b]
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ang boss ko dito, gumagamit ng rhino, interested din akong matuto. kasi merong 3d na di kayang gawin, or rather to say mahirap gawin sa 3dsmax.