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Normally ang preference ng clients (especially developers and property owners) are close to realistic, photographic renders. This is true because unlike designers (architects / interior designers) mas gusto ng layperson ang what you see is what you get approach.
However certain architects seem to have different preferences. There are some who demand an airbrush effect much like the ones produced in China (predominantly photoshop) and there are some who bother more on the entourage, RPCs, rather than the rendering of the space itself. I tend to lean towards the GI approach because WYSIWYG siya, but the scanline / extensive photoshop effect is full of loopholes - it's very subjective (for example - gusto ng client ng glass, pero not so reflective and not so transparent.. finding the balance is quite a challenge in this manner, etc etc)
Ang direction ng group namin is really geared towards the future visualization and that is extensive use of GI.
The question though is - as a CG artist / architect would you be leaning more towards the "traditional" look or the "realistic" effect?
Thanks guys, need the opinion of the community on this.
However certain architects seem to have different preferences. There are some who demand an airbrush effect much like the ones produced in China (predominantly photoshop) and there are some who bother more on the entourage, RPCs, rather than the rendering of the space itself. I tend to lean towards the GI approach because WYSIWYG siya, but the scanline / extensive photoshop effect is full of loopholes - it's very subjective (for example - gusto ng client ng glass, pero not so reflective and not so transparent.. finding the balance is quite a challenge in this manner, etc etc)
Ang direction ng group namin is really geared towards the future visualization and that is extensive use of GI.
The question though is - as a CG artist / architect would you be leaning more towards the "traditional" look or the "realistic" effect?
Thanks guys, need the opinion of the community on this.

celes- Pogi

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Re: Rendering Preferences?
While personally I prefer the ultra photorealistic style renderings, at times, a certain color of a piece of furniture or carpet can have a negative effect with particular clients. They can get so caught up with that, that they tend to disregard the rest of the image. At one point, the pm asked to make it a b/w rendering just to bypass that issue.
Sometimes, the architecture hasn’t even been completely designed yet, but they ask to catch the spirit of the place, that’s where the art of entourage placement comes in handy – Smoothe over in the UK does that very well.
I’ve also had clients where they just want it to look more like a technical illustration (when doing design viz work, never say “cartoon” in front of a client! They don’t want to feel like they’re paying thousands of dollars for a “cartoon”)…sometimes having too much realistic details in the image or “finished” looking images can take away from the design process. Having just enough information there during the meeting is also good sometimes…then later on, you can blow them away with the photo-real magic.
I recommend being a CG generalist, practicing and being able to do various styles of renderings will make you more marketable in your career.
Sometimes, the architecture hasn’t even been completely designed yet, but they ask to catch the spirit of the place, that’s where the art of entourage placement comes in handy – Smoothe over in the UK does that very well.
I’ve also had clients where they just want it to look more like a technical illustration (when doing design viz work, never say “cartoon” in front of a client! They don’t want to feel like they’re paying thousands of dollars for a “cartoon”)…sometimes having too much realistic details in the image or “finished” looking images can take away from the design process. Having just enough information there during the meeting is also good sometimes…then later on, you can blow them away with the photo-real magic.
I recommend being a CG generalist, practicing and being able to do various styles of renderings will make you more marketable in your career.

AJ Cortez- CGP Apprentice

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Para sakin bos dun ako sa photoreal render. Although hindi ako architect, parang mas ok kasi pag close to the real thing na yung papakita sa mga clients para alam nila kung anu expect nila for the final work done. Para makita na rin nila kung anung klaseng materials gagamitin and probably make adjustments na rin. 

Alicecocoz- CGP Apprentice

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Re: Rendering Preferences?
Photorealism is the best para sakin. Manghang mangha ako talaga pag close to the real thing ang output. It's like every cg artist's dream.
But on the other hand. Stylized rendering has a very big impact on the design. I also believe that it's faster to produce and can take a lot of optimization(simply by substituting stuffs that are heavy to render and intensive photoshop post prod)
Traditional scanline+photoshop style is also good but it's like a Chinese brand already, The more we do away with it the better. Although ganun pa din nangyayari minsan sa akin. haha!
But on the other hand. Stylized rendering has a very big impact on the design. I also believe that it's faster to produce and can take a lot of optimization(simply by substituting stuffs that are heavy to render and intensive photoshop post prod)
Traditional scanline+photoshop style is also good but it's like a Chinese brand already, The more we do away with it the better. Although ganun pa din nangyayari minsan sa akin. haha!

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Re: Rendering Preferences?
rendering preferrences are dictated by clients,no matter what your style is.phot realistic is good,and as an artist and designer this is e summit of your skill.

glensky- CGP Apprentice

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glensky wrote:rendering preferrences are dictated by clients,no matter what your style is.phot realistic is good,and as an artist and designer this is e summit of your skill.
exactly... it is encumbent then upon the architect/artist to be able to deliver on the clients' preference...

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cloud20 wrote:glensky wrote:rendering preferrences are dictated by clients,no matter what your style is.phot realistic is good,and as an artist and designer this is e summit of your skill.
exactly... it is encumbent then upon the architect/artist to be able to deliver on the clients' preference...
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glensky- CGP Apprentice

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glensky wrote:cloud20 wrote:glensky wrote:rendering preferrences are dictated by clients,no matter what your style is.phot realistic is good,and as an artist and designer this is e summit of your skill.
exactly... it is encumbent then upon the architect/artist to be able to deliver on the clients' preference...
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LoL...I second that.

AJ Cortez- CGP Apprentice

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Re: Rendering Preferences?
glensky wrote:rendering preferrences are dictated by clients,no matter what your style is.phot realistic is good,and as an artist and designer this is e summit of your skill.
+10

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Pra s akin depende s structure n gagawin. It depends also how the artist/ architect see the things. Kc mga master
may nkikita din kc ako n n gawa s Photoreal at Scanline lng n isang subject lng pero mas na appreciate ko ung scanline+pshop lng eh.
Papaano futuristic ung subject so mas astig nya npakita s scanline lng unlike s photoreal msagwa. so depende un s artist at dun tlga lumalabas ang pagka artist ng isang tao photoreal man o hindi...
may nkikita din kc ako n n gawa s Photoreal at Scanline lng n isang subject lng pero mas na appreciate ko ung scanline+pshop lng eh.
Papaano futuristic ung subject so mas astig nya npakita s scanline lng unlike s photoreal msagwa. so depende un s artist at dun tlga lumalabas ang pagka artist ng isang tao photoreal man o hindi...
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Re: Rendering Preferences?
photorealistic is the best i think...kung halos yun na yung kalalabasan ng design..i also agree ky glensky!! 


Butz_Arki- Superbeast

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Hmmmm..For me I still prefer the old architectural presentation(Wash watercolor effects and sketchy thing). Now a days kse talgang realistic na mga presentations and i prefer realistic presentations kung talgang nag sign off na ang client. But yeah,you guys right.its how the client sees it. 

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ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:Hmmmm..For me I still prefer the old architectural presentation(Wash watercolor effects and sketchy thing). Now a days kse talgang realistic na mga presentations and i prefer realistic presentations kung talgang nag sign off na ang client. But yeah,you guys right.its how the client sees it.
I'm with you sir jeff 100%...but in this kind of our field specially here in the Arab World they don't have that kind of visuals same as we have....kaya photorealistic pa rin ang bagsak natin but at the end its good for us

3DZONE- Cube Spinner

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way back before....sketch pa lang nako-close na namin ang project, malaki man o maliit. so for me its how you define a certain project, photorealistic man or artistic ang dating, the important is how your presentation become the medium of understanding on what has to be built.

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Re: Rendering Preferences?
nsa gumagawa ang diskarte...nasa client ang approval...but you can do what you want and preference/style you want...out of the context ung client pero pagpumasok na ung client eh the client ang masusunod...madali lang naman mapasunod ang client basta maganda at kung un ang napipicture nila ok na un...

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