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Post by ben on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:00 am

Mga master magtanong lang po ako tungkol sa pag lalagay ng dimension, ok lang po ba na sa layout ako maglagay ng major dimensions ko at hindi sa model space,, kasi nakaugaliaan ko nang duon maglagay after kong mag drawing lalo na sa mga blow-up detail eh sa architecture po ba ok lang din yung ganon,, totally empty po sa dimension yung model space drawing ko,, lahat ng dimension sa layout ko nilalagay... Tama po ba itong gingawa ko?
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Post by bokkins on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:33 am

Yup ok yang process na yan. Control mo ang dimension sa detalye.
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Re: Dimension

Post by JVT_Ltd on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:43 am

Yap tama si sir boks... but you need to set a different dimension style kung sa layout ka magdimensions... depende sa scale... but sometimes depende yan sa client o don sa nagpapagawa kung wala naman sila guide much better talaga sa layout mag lagay ng dimensions, text, note etc.... 2thumbsup
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Re: Dimension

Post by ben on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:13 am

2thumbsup Salamat sir books ayos talaga dito sa CG sa mga kaso na ganito may napapagtanungan..dito pa nga ko sir OT pa nag dimensioning pa ako,,hehe Laughing salamat din JVT sa pagbigay pansin sa tanong ko... maraming salamat..tapusin ko na to para makauwi na.. lol!
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Post by render master on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:48 am

well it depends kung saan ka convenient. i always put my dimension sa model space and use annotations. reason: i can easily see all the dimensions i need sa isang drawing in times of detailing.

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Re: Dimension

Post by trying hard on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:23 am

advantage kapag sa layout space inilagay, typical na lahat ng text styles at dimension styles mo pagdating sa height etc. regardless kung ano man ang scale ng mga viewports mo. though nasa kasanayan lang din yan sir. pero proper way talaga is to have it all in your model space kasi what if kailanganin mo ulit ang mga details mo sa ibang project, copy paste ka sa model space then copy paste rin sa layout space? tapos kung mainvolve ka sa mas complexed na workflow like use of external references na kinakailangan ng mabuting sistema, maninibago ka talaga. so advice ko sir pagaralan mo na lang kung paano gumawa ng mga styles na kailangan mo sa ibat-ibang drawing scales. madali lang naman. sa dimension iisang value lang naman ang dapat mong palitan, yun yung dimscale. basics ay kung ano ang drawing scale mo, yun din ang iassign mo na value. yung ibang values kasi ng style jan kukunin ang factor.





for example: 1:100 ang scale mo sa layout using mm units, 100 din ang value ng dimscale mo. so kung ang text height ng dimension style mo ay 2.5, imumultiply nya ito sa 100 which is equal to 250mm(height of dimension text in model space). and since 1:100 naman ang scale ng viewport mo sa layout space, 250/100 = 2.5mm(height of text in the layout space or in the actual print), at kaya rin 2.5 ang input value sa text height ng dimension style. ganun ang nangyayari. so sa mga values na iaasign mo sa dimension style mo basically galing sa actual measurement na preferred mo na lalabas sa prints mo. sorry kung di malinaw hehe! Smile

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Re: Dimension

Post by LOOKER on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:50 am

hehehe good luck
huwag sana mag-revise ng viewport scale

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Re: Dimension

Post by ben on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:44 pm

2thumbsup Maraming maraming salamat sa inyo lahat dito na-appreciate ko talaga lahat ng mga advise nyo cheers salamat talaga.. cheers
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Re: Dimension

Post by oby20 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:25 pm

sa model space nilalagay ang dimensions dahil pag sa layout ka naglagay, manual mo ito gagawin dahil nag iiba ka ng scaling sa layout. pagnag iba ka ng scale sa layout madugo kung manual mo nanaman ieedit ang dimensions mo, unlike sa model space laging 1:100 lang ang scale mo. hindi madugo iedit ang dimension.
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Re: Dimension

Post by dyun26 on Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:16 pm

[quote="LOOKER"]hehehe good luck
huwag sana mag-revise ng viewport scale[/quote

pwede mo naman ma lock ang viewports na gamit mo.. with this command

MV enter
(lock) L enter
ON enter

hope can help
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Re: Dimension

Post by dongding on Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:45 am

Mas prefer ko at maganda sa model gawin ang paglagay ng dimension at dapat separate mo ang layer nito para madali mong ma off & on. Para sa layout viewport mo pwede mong freeze kung anong layer ang gusto ma view or not. At sa layout viewport bago mo scale ang layout mo; Type: MS (Model space) enter & zoom to the target Detail drawing mo as soon you have the target detail ng drawing mo & then again Type: PS (Paper space) & checking the scale of layout viewport then type Vpscale & select viewport edge to scale at command: makikita mo ang scale proportion na PS:MS == 1:2.0689 it means the scale is 1:2. To make more precise scale then; Command: MVSETUP

Initializing...
Enter an option [Align/Create/Scale viewports/Options/Title block/Undo]: s

Select the viewports to scale...
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 1 found

Select objects:
Set the ratio of paper space units to model space units...
Enter the number of paper space units <1.0>: 1

Enter the number of model space units <1.0>: 2

Heto ang lagi kong routine sa pag scale ko para maging precise ang mga gawain ko.
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Re: Dimension

Post by render master on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 pm

the problem of putting dimension on layout is....you need to go back in forth to see and check the dimension, labels and callouts relative to what you are working. but its good because you can control dimension and text, kaya lang for me its not convenient. i still prefer annotative dimension and text on model space.

don't be discourage, still its on user preference.

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Re: Dimension

Post by zdesign on Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:53 am

isang sablay sa pag lagay ng dimension sa layout e pag nagpalit na ng scale lalo na pag malakihan na project at paulit ulit nahingi ng file ang client like A3 size to A2 size file dyan nagkakaroon ng problema.isa pa mostly ngayon gumagamit ng xref pag nag exchange ng file medyo mahihirapan yong ibang magbabasa ng plano.
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