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Post by crayzard on Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:50 pm

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ask ko lang mga ka cgpinoy opinion nyo...

example malaki sahud ninyo, w/ tg here in the philippines, kaso yung dept nyo sa company ninyo (3d dept) eh walang projects for almost 2 yrs na... dapat bang mahiya and mag resign na.... Very Happy nakakatamad pumasok everyday na routine na lang ang ginagawa..
pasok ng 8 am, pagdating office timpla coffee, den harap sa monitor, sip ng coffee browse net, hanap ng mapagaaralan, 9gag, lunch, 9 gag, practice ng napagaralan, coffee break, practice ulet, prepare na para umuwe,, uuwe na.. den sometimes yung boss mo mag aask kung ano ang ginagawa mo.. whattttt the fffffff,,, sympre wala.. wala akong project eh.. den he will ask you to study a diff software na napakalayu sa line of work mo....... pinaka nakakahiya sa lahat pag sahud na.. sasahud ka ng walang ginagawa..
sympre sa age ko (30) dapat stability na ng work ang hanap ko hindi yung start ka na naman ulet.. hayzzz

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Post by eragasco on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:25 am

@crayzard -ako nga sir 30+ na unstable pa din. govt employee naman ako as in Job Order lang. so maliit sweldo pero maganda mga pinapagawa trabaho. mas marami din time na naka-tanga, kain ng kain, kape kape din, bidahan, movie marathon, sideline ng 3d kung meron, nagfi-fixer minsan(sobra dalang), games sa pc kahit nasa tabi ng hepe, late papasok at minsan aga uuwi.nakakasawa nga din kasi napaka bihira naman ng trabaho.dadating na talaga namang stress ka pag nandun na. pero pag natapos na at on-going na projects, naku mag isip ka na ng libangan. ang pinag kaiba lang natin sir, malaki sweldo mo, kami karampot at dalas delayed pa. sagot ko : tyaga ka muna sir dyan. mahirap hanap work or mahirap mag start na naman. foundation mo na yan.

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Post by JVT_Ltd on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:49 am

Sir na experienced ko din yan... american company kaya lang contructual lang ako... But they kept us (ilang mga kasama ko) kasi may parating daw na project... So what our Eng. Manager they put us to a training program habang nag-aantay... kunwari nagmomodel (piping), basa ng standard, theory ng design etc... then pagdating ng pasahan ng timesheet may code sila para don icharge yun kuwari training hehehe...

Ang nakakalungkot di dumating yun project na iniintay kaya yun kami ang una chinugi hehehe...

Kaya kaw na lang gumawa ng pagkakaabalahan mo... pamatay oras hehehe... kasi for sure pag dumating yan project nyo ihi lang pahinga nyo hehehe... gdluck

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Re: Opinion......

Post by crayzard on Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:32 am

@yaug aaply ka pa sir tatlo na tayung mag popost nyan sa cgpinoy na walang ginagawa hehehehe...

@jvt ay naku sir ganyan lagi sinasabi ng boss namin na kunwari my prospect na client, sasabihin pag ito dumating hindi kayu mawawalan ng gagawin 5 times na ata sinabi sakin yan para tumaas naman morale namin hehehe kaso ganun pa den.. pamatay oras na nga lang talaga practice practice eh.. kaso sa back ng mind mo iniisip mo what if talagang walang proj den tsugihin ka ng hindi prepared paktay......

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Post by arjun_samar on Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:39 pm

yaug_03 wrote:Parang gusto ko magapply diyan tongue
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sama mo na ko boss! thumbsup

sa totoo lang napaka swerti mo sir, kasi you have a "life" . pwidi kang umuwi ng maaga mas marami kang time na pwidi maibigay sa family mo at mataas sahod at di ka pagud lalo na sa edad nyo sir na 30 dapat light nalang talaga work load nyo.



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Re: Opinion......

Post by crayzard on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:02 pm

@arjun 24 pa lang kayu sir noh.. ganyan na ganyan den ako ng 24 yrs old sa unang company ko 24/7 sa office... pero enjoy kasi gusto ko yung ginagawa ko eh.... nagbago lang nung naka asawa na hindi na pwede magbabad sa office... kahit pagdating ko dati sa bahay gawa pa ren ng 3d.. coz i love what i am doing.. mas pipiliin ko pa ang busy for 8 hours kesa 8 hours na nakaupo lang po...

isa lang sir ayaw ko sa comment nyo hehehe nag mukha naman yung 30 yrs old na 50 yrs old na hehee.. parang hindi ko naman na kaya tumakbo nyan hehehehe... flexible pa den naman ang tuhod ko...

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Post by dairybrylle on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:04 pm

pag maraming trabaho, nagrereklamo. pag wala naman, nagrereklamo pa rin.
ang tao nga naman. tsk tsk.

buti ka nga po malaki sinasahod mo kahit na wala ka naman masyadong ginagawa. ako dito sa office, all around na. aside for being the company's cad operator and 3D renderer, ginagawa rin nila akong secretary: tagasagot ng phone, tagagawa ng letter, tagalinis ng office, taga-set ng meeting, minsan ako pa nakikipag-meeting sa clients. minsan din napagkakamalan akong engineer lalo na sa site.. taga supervise, taga sukat, taga estimate. buti sana kung malaki sinasahod ko dito, eh kakarampot naman. tapos di ba dapat double pay pag OT? eh inaabot na nga ako ng madaling araw dito pero ganon pa rin, mababa pa rin sahod ko eh.huhu Sad

buti na lang meh mga sidelines ako. in fairness mas malaki kinikita ko dun. Very Happy

kaya wag ka na mag-worry jan kuya. be thankful na lang po. just save your salary na lang and prepare for the possibility na baka i-kick out ka nila sa office one day. you'll never know. baka nga naman palugi na company nyo. mabuti na yong prepared. jocolor

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Re: Opinion......

Post by rock_mads on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:08 pm

dairybrylle wrote:pag maraming trabaho, nagrereklamo. pag wala naman, nagrereklamo pa rin.
ang tao nga naman. tsk tsk.

buti ka nga po malaki sinasahod mo kahit na wala ka naman masyadong ginagawa. ako dito sa office, all around na. aside for being the company's cad operator and 3D renderer, ginagawa rin nila akong secretary: tagasagot ng phone, tagagawa ng letter, tagalinis ng office, taga-set ng meeting, minsan ako pa nakikipag-meeting sa clients. minsan din napagkakamalan akong engineer lalo na sa site.. taga supervise, taga sukat, taga estimate. buti sana kung malaki sinasahod ko dito, eh kakarampot naman. tapos di ba dapat double pay pag OT? eh inaabot na nga ako ng madaling araw dito pero ganon pa rin, mababa pa rin sahod ko eh.huhu Sad

buti na lang meh mga sidelines ako. in fairness mas malaki kinikita ko dun. Very Happy

kaya wag ka na mag-worry jan kuya. be thankful na lang po. just save your salary na lang and prepare for the possibility na baka i-kick out ka nila sa office one day. you'll never know. baka nga naman palugi na company nyo. mabuti na yong prepared. jocolor






tama may point ka po.. thats the right opinion para sa blog na to..

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Post by crayzard on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:20 pm

pag maraming trabaho, nagrereklamo. pag wala naman, nagrereklamo pa rin.
ang tao nga naman. tsk tsk.

just to add something hindi ako nag rereklamo pag maraming trabaho... yun nga ang gusto ko.. im complaining kasi walang project.. gusto ko busy (3d related) pero not to the point na gawin akong katulong (timpla coffee, bili duon or dito)...

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Post by dairybrylle on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:24 pm

crayzard wrote:
pag maraming trabaho, nagrereklamo. pag wala naman, nagrereklamo pa rin.
ang tao nga naman. tsk tsk.

just to add something hindi ako nag rereklamo pag maraming trabaho... yun nga ang gusto ko.. im complaining kasi walang project.. gusto ko busy (3d related) pero not to the point na gawin akong katulong (timpla coffee, bili duon or dito)...

gusto mo kuya, palit tayo? hehe peace man joke lang.

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Re: Opinion......

Post by crayzard on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:26 pm

aba okey yan basta hindi mag babago sahud ko hehehe.. and hindi ako okey dito hehehe

ginagawa rin nila akong secretary: tagasagot ng
phone, tagagawa ng letter, tagalinis ng office, taga-set ng meeting,
minsan ako pa nakikipag-meeting sa clients. minsan din napagkakamalan
akong engineer lalo na sa site.. taga supervise, taga sukat, taga
estimate

all around na to eh..

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Post by arjun_samar on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:29 pm

crayzard wrote:@arjun 24 pa lang kayu sir noh..

isa lang sir ayaw ko sa comment nyo hehehe nag mukha naman yung 30 yrs old na 50 yrs old na hehee.. parang hindi ko naman na kaya tumakbo nyan hehehehe... flexible pa den naman ang tuhod ko...

oo boss 24, hahaha sorry naman Laughing Laughing Laughing ika nga kalabaw lang tumatanda...

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Post by dairybrylle on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:37 pm

crayzard wrote:aba okey yan basta hindi mag babago sahud ko hehehe.. and hindi ako okey dito hehehe

ginagawa rin nila akong secretary: tagasagot ng
phone, tagagawa ng letter, tagalinis ng office, taga-set ng meeting,
minsan ako pa nakikipag-meeting sa clients. minsan din napagkakamalan
akong engineer lalo na sa site.. taga supervise, taga sukat, taga
estimate

all around na to eh..

i know right. it sucks. i love what im doing, except when my boss is treating me as his secretary. kaya nga ako nag-arki coz i wanna be 'the boss' someday, not as anybody's secretary! Mad gaya ngayon, pinapa-arrange nya na naman sakin yong sched nya and he wants me to meet our other client na naman. "Yes sir" na lang talaga naitutugon ko.. oh dear! Rolling Eyes

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Post by corpsegrinder on Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:32 am

sir may alam akong company kung gusto mo ng architectural rendering, at salungat sa sa klase ng trabaho mong petiks2x lang. sigurado matutuwa sayo yun! lol!

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Post by virus on Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:28 am

Bakit di kayo bumalik kay sir V? peace man

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Post by crayzard on Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:55 am

Sa pagkakaalam ko wala na sitang office dito, 3 na lang ata ang natirang staff ng enising.

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Post by NUHJSANTI on Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:54 am

Sir, i been in same situation as yours.

But keep in mind that there is no perfect company, just if you are happy on what you are doing and your office environment...stay! as long as they need your presence at the office...basta pasok ka lang para walang deduction sa sahod mo...Very Happy

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Post by domar_11 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:41 am

Sir Crayzard, isipin mo po na lang advantage syo. Puede ka magsurf sa net. Hindi ka sinita ng boss mo kung ano ginagawa mo. At higit sa lahat pag uwi makikita mo ang pamilya mo. Kami dito sa saudi wala na ngang ginagawa dahil wla ring project tatanongin ka pa kung ano ginagawa mo. Bawal din ang internet panakaw lang yan. Kasabwat IT namin. Hehehehe Within 2 years siguro ilang project lang nagawa ko wla pa sa limang daliri ko pero sumasahod din kami. hindi rin natin kasalanan kung wala silang nakuhang project. At higit sa lahat nakakapagpractice ka dyan ng ibang software. Sa amin lahat bawal. Autocad lang talaga ang makikita mo sa monitor namin.

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Post by crayzard on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:02 pm

ganun naman talaga ata situation sa mga 3d studios.. minsan talaga alat (kaso kami 2 yrs ng alat) bahala na lang si batman. if tangalin tangalin ng lang.. just keep on learning na lang...

thanks sa mga nag reply... at least hindi lang pala ako nag iisa (at si tongkek dalawa pala kami)

so be it.. sahud lang ng sahud lol...........

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Post by eyecon01 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:17 pm

Bro, I thinks its your chance to shine... why don't you use your free to time create and render something that you like and do. Personal stuff to build up your porfolio. Nakaka bato nga pero it does not mean you don't have to do anything...

Try going around the net, I'm sure merong architectural competition dyan somewhere, then salihan mu, thats good for you and your office pag nanalo ka. After all, you need to practice and you need the challenge.

2 cents ko lang po.

P.S. Dati sa Toei Animation nawalan din kami ng work for 6 months... but I used that time to learn mattepainting and eventually moved to it as a career.

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Post by Gryffindor_prince on Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:14 am

naranasan ko na po yan sir, nakakainip talaga kapag walang project, palibhasa yung boss ko from Australia siya kaya
barya lang sa kanya yung binabayad niya sa amin, yung tipong wala naman project pero just stay in the office.

Tama ka sir nakakatamad pumasok na wala namang gagawin ako kasi 6 am kailangan nakasakay na ako sa bus
before 8 am kailangan nasa office na ako.

ayun umalis na lang ako naranasan ko rin yung kung ano ano na lang ginagawa mo sa harap ng PC masabi lang na busy ka
haha then yung assistant ng boss ko tulog sa loob ng office haha

pero may pagsisi rin ako na nagresign ako kasi mahirap maghanap ng work lalo na sa kaso ko na wala naman akong
alam sa architecture although may mga alok sa akin na sideline sa pagrerender, sabi nila normal daw sa mga 3d renderer ang tumunganga kapag walang project dapat daw masanay na ako.

pero kapag nangyari ulit yan sa akin haha mag aaral na ko sa office ng zbrush haha para tipid sa kuryente sa bahay.
malaki rin kasi kita ng mga architectural design studios kaya kahit walang gaanong projects may pansweldo sila sa mga empleyado nila.


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Post by crayzard on Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:04 pm

ngyari na nga ang iniisip na naming mangyayari na retrench kami.... heheheh 17 ang tinangal sa comp...

oh well.. sinu gusto pa mentor for free walang magawa eh...

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Post by hedgedread on Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:44 pm

Hahaha...natawa naman ako sa description ng everyday work mo sir. Just stay, kase kung di ka naman nila kelangan ilelet-go ka nila. =)

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Post by arkiedmund on Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:35 am

crayzard wrote:ngyari na nga ang iniisip na naming mangyayari na retrench kami.... heheheh 17 ang tinangal sa comp...

oh well.. sinu gusto pa mentor for free walang magawa eh...
Seryoso ko crayzard?

Ako sana, papa-mentor for free. Feeling ko kasi kahit halos kainin ko na itong 3ds max, di ko pa rin makuha yung gusto kong makuha lalo na sa rendering na yan. Pareho naman sa iba mga pinipindot ko, pero, parang yung mga tinuruan ko pa dati ng basics eh, ngayon mas magaling pa sa akin eh. Sad

PM mo lang ako, at nang mapag usapan natin yan.

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Post by learn3d on Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:08 am

Sad to hear. In general cg and vfx work is a race to the bottom right now.

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Post by crayzard on Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 am

@arkied

check ko yung mga render mo okey naman ah...  sakin lang scene baka kulang lang sa scene composition and mood nung render...

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Post by arkiedmund on Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:39 am

crayzard wrote:@arkied

check ko yung mga render mo okey naman ah...  sakin lang scene baka kulang lang sa scene composition and mood nung render...
yan yung mga tsamba sir. tara, kelan ang session?

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