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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:06 am

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I just saw this thread in the other forum and just want to have it also here in CGP..Thanks guys!

What kind of CG Artist are you??

One that articulates and stays true to detail in the Model (Pre Rendering), or
One that corrects everything in a photoshop (Post Rendering), or
A little of both?

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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by v_wrangler on Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:57 am

Talk about cg in the old days - gee that's nostalgic, I remember faking raytraced reflections by mirroring the same object. Very Happy

I'm also with kabute on this one. Its always easier to learn cg nowadays but optimization is skill one can only learn thru experience.

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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:11 am

Thanks a lot guys for all the responses.

Me im 98% percent 3d 2%photoshop. As much as possible ginagawa ko lhat sa 3d.Thats because of revisions.Mahina kse ako sa photoshop.Pero malaki din natutulong ng PS sa kin.
Pano nga ba ako napunta sa CG?? 2years ago i tried applying as a designer or whatever position suited for me in Dubai but unfortunately wala tumatanggap sa kin kse nga daw di daw ako marunong mag 3D or mag cadd or mag photoshop man lng. As in zero.hehehe. Kse that time naka focus ako as a designer. Hindi ko napansin yung importance ng 3D. So ayun i have to learn kahit na onti. Then yun na,ang hirap pala. Its not easy as i had thought. Everyday i have to deal with new techniques and style. Nakakalito. Then i met you guys. Yun learning is much easier.
I develop my skills, i tried so hard to learn and cope up. But my time is a lot different from those cg artist before. My time is much easier pero hindi ganun madedevelop yung skills mo in terms of modeling and even rendering. Kse sa dami ng premodeled furnitures nagiging tamad na mga artist to learn more on modeling side. I myself guilty of it.hehehe.But im learning pretty much ok.Next post ko is all modeled by me.hahaha..Kso di pa dn ganun ka ok.Tama lng na makuha ko yung shape. Anyways enough said.Thanks a lot guys for dropping by my thread. More power and God bless! thumbsup

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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by Guest on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:22 am

v_wrangler wrote:Thanks peeps! With Christine's (este!) Arkitektura's permission - I'd like to make a twist to the topic. Because we can go on and on talk about what people do (and I'd just sound like vertex is the holy grail!) and end up learning nothing. It will be like a one man sumo...

I wish that we could align the discussion into something like - What kind of an artist should we be?

Whatdyathinku?

Hehehehe/...Ok sir V no problem at all..Carry on guys! thumbsup

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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by ortzak on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:48 am

Buti pa kayo mga bro ang bilis nyo matuto sa CG.

Ako always a dreamer. Always want to be a CG artist/renderer kaso always on the wrong side of profession hehe..from draftsman to site supervisor hanngang maging designer di ako nahawak ng visualizations.

kaya ngayon eto wedding/stage designer na naman ang work ko kaya ang layo na naman huhu..

IM A FRUSTRATED CG ARTIST!! kaya hanngang sidelines nalang ako nakaka render but not that good though. No
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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by AUSTRIA on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:06 am

ortzak wrote:Buti pa kayo mga bro ang bilis nyo matuto sa CG.

Ako always a dreamer. Always want to be a CG artist/renderer kaso always on the wrong side of profession hehe..from draftsman to site supervisor hanngang maging designer di ako nahawak ng visualizations.

kaya ngayon eto wedding/stage designer na naman ang work ko kaya ang layo na naman huhu..

IM A FRUSTRATED CG ARTIST!! kaya hanngang sidelines nalang ako nakaka render but not that good though. No

Not good attitude sir!!! always remember once an artist is always be an artist...for me being an artist is not necessary work of nature m sya eh...like me khit may Max,vray, photoshop or whatever software pa ngaung pnahon n to di k p rin pinapababayan ang pagiging Painter artist ko kc ito ung gusto kung gawin at mahal ko...by this way I express myself as an artist... Softwares are just a tool only but being an artist once you express yourself whatever may come up ARTIST k p rin...ma appreciate man o hindi ng tao...for me that is the meaning of an ARTIST...kya if I were u khit di m work ang mag 3d gawin m prin khit di m p sya pagkakakitaan kc msya ka s gingwa m eh or make it as ur hobby...hope mka encourage to pra syo n gwain ang nrarapat...God bless bro.. Wink


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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by ortzak on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:24 am

AUSTRIA wrote:
ortzak wrote:Buti pa kayo mga bro ang bilis nyo matuto sa CG.

Ako always a dreamer. Always want to be a CG artist/renderer kaso always on the wrong side of profession hehe..from draftsman to site supervisor hanngang maging designer di ako nahawak ng visualizations.

kaya ngayon eto wedding/stage designer na naman ang work ko kaya ang layo na naman huhu..

IM A FRUSTRATED CG ARTIST!! kaya hanngang sidelines nalang ako nakaka render but not that good though. No

Not good attitude sir!!! always remember once an artist is always be an artist...for me Being an artist is not necessary work of nature m sya eh...like me khit may Max,vray, photoshop or whatever software pa ngaung pnahon n to di k p rin pinapababayan ang pagiging Painter artist ko kc ito ung gusto kung gawin at mahal ko...by this way I express myself as an artist... Softwares are just a tool only but being an artist once you express yourself whatever come up ARTIST k p rin...kya if I were u khit di m work ang mag 3d gawin m prin khit di m p sya pagkakakitaan kc msya ka s gingwa m eh...hope mka encourage to pra syo n gwain ang nrarapat...God bless bro.. Wink


bro salamat sa inspiring words. thumbsup medyo na frustrate lang kasi ako minsan hehe along with some homesickness na siguro but im still trying despite the odds hehe..sige inuman na tayo inuman na

btw salamat sa mga goodies na inilagay mo sa HD ko ha!!sa uulitin.
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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:29 am

It all boils to this word "passion". All artist, no matter what kind of art they are expressing, dapat ay may passion ang isang artist. Dahil dito nagkakaroon nang kabuluhan ang ginagawa natin. Dapat din wag tayong matakot sa lahat nang ating maiisip o malilikha. lastly dapat maging responsible din tayo, in terms of learning and sharing our skills/knowledge. lahat tayo ay artist, kanya kanya lang siguro nang interpretation or expression. "one love man", ayos diba. rockenroll hippie
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Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:30 am

bong enge ako nung goodies, ahehehehe...
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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by AUSTRIA on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:43 am

mammoo_03 wrote:bong enge ako nung goodies, ahehehehe...

heheh Oo ba ikaw pa eh mlakas k s akin papaano m nmn mkukuha nsa dubai k kya...cge PM m n lng ako or call me ok kung papaano m mkukuha ok....Slamat s mga komento m wla b tyo bagong post dyan?

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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by cubi_o: on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:46 am

For me, i always keep this in mind....

dedication + passion + inspiration = love.Very Happy

those 3 just kip me rollin' and boilin'...hehehe... tongue
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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:00 am

approve sir junel, nadale mo!!!
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Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:02 am

ur welcome sir bong, sige txt kita pag punta ako nang abu dhabi, daan ako sa cityscape, marami raw malulupeet na design duon. wala pa bro eh, soon post ko, i guess yung mga una kong gawa, paguwi ko halungkatin ko, ahihihi.
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Post by kurdaps! on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:05 am

cubi_o: wrote:For me, i always keep this in mind....

dedication + passion + inspiration = love.Very Happy

those 3 just kip me rollin' and boilin'...hehehe... tongue

OT:

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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by torvicz on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:11 am

cubi_o: wrote:For me, i always keep this in mind....

dedication + passion + inspiration = love.Very Happy

those 3 just kip me rollin' and boilin'...hehehe... tongue


sama mo na pati sapatos ni sion dude! heheh joke lang ha?
sorry OT na to...


going back to the topic...
meron ka kaseng premise dude arki, so I'll base my answer on that.

I think I'm more of an artist who deals much on 3d rather than doing more than 50% on a post processing in PS.
basically because its easier to revise the images. and also having made all the objects in 3d
you'll have more options on doing multiple views...I used PS primarily on color correction, curves etc. and
some entourage if needed...but for me PS will always be a handy tool for all CG artist.
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Re: What kind of CG Artist are you??

Post by cubi_o: on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:15 am

kurdaps! wrote:[quote:e7f9="cubi_o:"]For me, i always keep this in mind....

dedication + passion + inspiration = love.Very Happy

those 3 just kip me rollin' and boilin'...hehehe... tongue

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tsikboy!

peace man


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Post by torvicz on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:16 am

kurdaps! wrote:[quote:e7f9="cubi_o:"]For me, i always keep this in mind....

dedication + passion + inspiration = love.Very Happy

those 3 just kip me rollin' and boilin'...hehehe... tongue

OT:

tsikboy!

peace man[/quote]


mali ata ung thread...dapat what kind of person are you? hahaha peace dude!

sorry OT nanaman....hehehe
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Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:17 am

sir junel tayo ay stick to one, play to many, bwahahahaha. peace man
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Post by torvicz on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:19 am

mammoo_03 wrote:sir junel tayo ay stick to one, play to many, bwahahahaha. peace man

eto pa isa! heheh

OT na yan hoy! hahaha
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Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:23 am

kidding aside mga sir, dagdag ko rin, dapat ang isang artist ay always thirsty sa knowledge. kasi part nang pagmature nang isang tayo ang creativity, resourcefulness at syemprehhh, dapat din ay may talent talaga. talent separates us to the normal output. thats why successful artist is always different, tipong read between the lines and see things in a different perspective. hmmmm. i guess all in all, samahan din nang good health, para makapagisip nang mabuti at tama.
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Post by v_wrangler on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:24 am

Mamoo, all this talk about passion has been talked about in previous threads. Sorry I cannot point you there as I cannot find the orig thread.

Passion, its more of the spirit - I'm more interested in hearing what we ought to be in terms of technicalities or workflow. Ya know we can all talk about ideology but it's all spirit - it has to be there in the first place no question about it. Now after all the passion in you - what workflow or attitude works best?
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Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:42 am

i agree sir v_wrangler, hmmmm... i think the best is "time management", for me (in our line of work-exhibition stands mostly) ay paspasan, dapat sabay ang speed at quality. doingso dapat and artist/designer must identify the problem first (space requirements and budget/cost of the project), this initial stage dapat meron nang nabubuo na design sa mind mo para magtakeoff ka na sa modelling and mapping/rendering. or sometimes it works in vise versa. may design na, then ififit mo nalang based on the requirements nang client.

matetest ang galing nang isang artist kung alam nya yung projection nang time nya: kung kailan nya matatapos ang project, paano nya gagawin ito, ano ang kanyang sisimulan, ano ano ang kanyang mga kailangan para magawa ang design nya, etc.

i guess sa lahat nang design problem, what is common is its sense.
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Post by cubi_o: on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:47 am

ooooppppps..... sori to the TS for the mislead.
we had tackle na pala on the previous thread... Embarassed


for me... as much as i could, i do them most on 3d..para isang push button nlng.pero there are things na d mo cya napapalabas talga sa 3d which i need to do it in PS..thats why it is also a mixture of generating them.
for example - yung mga sample images nng clients..sometimes i used in PS para at least makuha talga ang particular color.. coz there are clients who are very particular and specific..

so its a mixture of both. cheats and faster..
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Post by pakunat on Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:15 am

ako sir kalmante lang. kung ano gusto ng cliente o ng boss. pero my preference tlga is basta artistic ang dating.
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Post by wireframan on Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:22 am

I am a mixture of both but I'm more on 3d..kung baga 90:10 ang ratio. I do model sometimes all furnitures needed...sometime kinakahuyan ang evermotion whehehe..
Photoshop is for color correction, B&C, dof, texture correction etc..
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Post by alwin on Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:59 am

me subukan kung magawa sa 3d lahat na sana hindi na lang mag edit sa ps!
i'm also an oldschool style! mahirap para sa akin ang 3d lalo nang wala akong
maka chat ! or maka share sa mga ideas, hindi katulad ngayon na sandali na lang sila gumawa nang 3d presentations dahil marami silang mga friends na pweding maka advise kung ano ang dapat.
i'm also one of a thousand cgpinoy member na nagresearch at bumasa nang sangkaterbang tuts & files making self study on how to make a good presentations as long as visualisation is concern.
kaya sa mga bagong generations ngayon masuwerte kayo dahil meron nang CGP at mga friends na ka share sa mga ideas!
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Post by v_wrangler on Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:45 pm

alwin wrote:me subukan kung magawa sa 3d lahat na sana hindi na lang mag edit sa ps!
i'm also an oldschool style! mahirap para sa akin ang 3d lalo nang wala akong
maka chat ! or maka share sa mga ideas, hindi katulad ngayon na sandali na lang sila gumawa nang 3d presentations dahil marami silang mga friends na pweding maka advise kung ano ang dapat.
i'm also one of a thousand cgpinoy member na nagresearch at bumasa nang sangkaterbang tuts & files making self study on how to make a good presentations as long as visualisation is concern.
kaya sa mga bagong generations ngayon masuwerte kayo dahil meron nang CGP at mga friends na ka share sa mga ideas!

Alwin you are free to email me if you have some questions - I'll try my best to help you out if I know the answer.

Going back, self study is the norm, kahit pa meron mga eskuwelahan na ngayon. It should never be a disadvantage - in fact, self study is the greatest teacher of them all - couple that with experience, which unfortunately the young ones do not have. So cheer up old guys (kasama ako ron).

I am seeing a trend here where people tend to do everything in 3d. Whether that is for self-gratification, katamaran or kasipagan, I leave that to you.

I still believe that the workflow will always be dictated by the market, the purpose for which you are creating the imagery. Which brings me to my old point - work only on the things that will be seen by the camera.

If you have an object that will be seen only for a single frame, you'll have the option of either adding that thru PS or by using some of the images or objects from your library.

If the camera will be flying around and the object will be seen from various angles, then doing that in 3D is the best thing you could do.

The last bottomline, of all vertex bottomlines, Use what suits you BUT if this is your profession, do what serves your paying clients. Remember that the client isn't concerned about how many days you've foregone sleeping, or what tools you used or how expensive the software was. They are only concerned about the final output. So if you are a wise guy and I think you should be - use the energies wisely, don't waste your time 3Ding the next star wars if you can achieve the same illusion by faking or using old school techniques. Unfortunately, its hard to get even come close to star wars!

Learn photoshop - it will definitely save you time and effort.
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