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Post by mokong on Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:37 am

i'd like to share two glass settings.. please choose which one is better.. either "A" or "B"? i also included the snapshots..



settings for "A"..
Reflection: RGB 185,185,185 ; Refraction: RGB 238,238,238




settings for "B".. ( i got this from a tutorial site but i add a little tweak on the settings)
Reflection: RGB 185,185,185 ; Refraction: RGB 238,238,238




hope may e share kau pra mapabuti pa ito...

PS: to the moderator paki transfer na lng po if hindi to nababagay sa help line.. Very Happy

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by pedio84 on Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:58 am

mas like ko yung A sir mokong...aprub s akin. heheh thanks for sharing na rin. kailngan ko rin to. nag eexperiment pa din ako a glass shaders ko.. 2thumbsup

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mokong on Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:45 am

pedio84 wrote:mas like ko yung A sir mokong...aprub s akin. heheh thanks for sharing na rin. kailngan ko rin to. nag eexperiment pa din ako a glass shaders ko.. 2thumbsup


ganun ba.. salamat din... kau guyz ano pa pwdng e dagdag dito? nahihirapan kac ako sa glass settings eh gusto ko kasi yung realistic tingnan... hehehe...

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mokong on Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:44 pm

salamat po sa moderator at na transfer na... Very Happy dito lng pala sa resources... heheh...

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by jenaro on Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:59 pm

sino magaling dyan?lumabas na...oppps maling thread pala... peace man thnx for sharing pareng mokong! 2thumbsup medyo kinakapa ko din itong settings...

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by archbmc77 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:39 pm

Sir mokong maraming salamat nitong tuturial mo laking tulong to sir sa akin kc nahihirapan talaga ako sa glass shader minsan nakakatsamba pero kadalasan hindi. Sir tanong ko lang din ano ang dapat na gamitin sa vray G.I. environment at sa REFLECTION environment pag ginamit ko tong glass mo? kung HDRI ano ang map type sir na gamitin( angular, spherical or mirrored?) tsaka ano dapat ang value sa overall multiplier at sa render multipier? tsaka ang gamma sa hdri ginagalaw pa ba yun sir? pasensya na sir dami ko tanong, pero try ko din tong mat mo. salamat ulit sir.

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by Sardo Numspa on Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:39 pm

Hello Sir, I like them both but if pressed, I like the B version better. Thank you for sharing.

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by Butz_Arki on Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:01 am

nice tuts bro!!

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mokong on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:05 pm

archbmc77 wrote:Sir mokong maraming salamat nitong tuturial mo laking tulong to sir sa akin kc nahihirapan talaga ako sa glass shader minsan nakakatsamba pero kadalasan hindi. Sir tanong ko lang din ano ang dapat na gamitin sa vray G.I. environment at sa REFLECTION environment pag ginamit ko tong glass mo? kung HDRI ano ang map type sir na gamitin( angular, spherical or mirrored?) tsaka ano dapat ang value sa overall multiplier at sa render multipier? tsaka ang gamma sa hdri ginagalaw pa ba yun sir? pasensya na sir dami ko tanong, pero try ko din tong mat mo. salamat ulit sir.


sir xenxa na ngaun ko lng nareplyan to.. medyo bz kac.. hdri po gamit ko jan sa environment at tsaka sa reflection.. spherical gamit ko... meron naman tau example ng render settings bro sa tutorial section.. explore mo na lng doon.. Very Happy

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by v_wrangler on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:42 pm

This is one of the most complicated glass setting I've ever saw, not that it is entirely wrong. But a gradient ramp with falloff on each ramp is just overdone waste of ram.

My usual recipe for glass is

a. black diffuse,
b. falloff to mask reflections (fresnel is physically correct but it doesn't allow you to further control the mask) ,
c. and the reverse of that falloff in the refractions.

What it does is - give you strong reflections at the glancing angles and less where it is totally parallel to the camera. Transparent in areas with less reflections and opaque where it isn't.

Glass is black in the diffuse so that the control for the glass color comes from whatever color you put in the refraction. Remember that glass acts like a filter - if its blue, anthing behind it will be refracted with a tint of the same color.

For large panels of glass, sometimes it helps to add big but low intensity noise bump maps to distort the evenly perfect reflections. What we assume as perfectly flat isn't really flat in real life...

And BTW, without a good environment (map) your glass renderings will remain bland, distasteful and boring.

Bon appetit!

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mokong on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:49 pm

v_wrangler wrote:This is one of the most complicated glass setting I've ever saw, not that it is entirely wrong. But a gradient ramp with falloff on each ramp is just overdone waste of ram.

My usual recipe for glass is

a. black diffuse,
b. falloff to mask reflections (fresnel is physically correct but it doesn't allow you to further control the mask) ,
c. and the reverse of that falloff in the refractions.

What it does is - give you strong reflections at the glancing angles and less where it is totally parallel to the camera. Transparent in areas with less reflections and opaque where it isn't.

Glass is black in the diffuse so that the control for the glass color comes from whatever color you put in the refraction. Remember that glass acts like a filter - if its blue, anthing behind it will be refracted with a tint of the same color.

For large panels of glass, sometimes it helps to add big but low intensity noise bump maps to distort the evenly perfect reflections. What we assume as perfectly flat isn't really flat in real life...

And BTW, without a good environment (map) your glass renderings will remain bland, distasteful and boring.

Bon appetit!


salamat po sir v.. sa ngaun medyo naliwanagan na ako ng kaunti sa glass settings.. hop u could give as tuts for this.. Very Happy

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mokong on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:50 pm

ano po yung falloff to mask reflections? paxenxa na hindi ko maintindihan.. peace man

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by v_wrangler on Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:57 pm

Any color or map you put in the reflection slot of a standard material or vray material will determine the strength of the reflections.

If you put a falloff map there, it will act as a MASK to control where the reflections shall appear. White (in the falloff map) will let the reflections pass thru and Black (in the falloff map) will stop the reflections.

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:01 pm

thanks sir vertex, very informative. dami naming natututunan ah.

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Re: A little Expirement of Glass Settings

Post by mokong on Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:02 pm

v_wrangler wrote:Any color or map you put in the reflection slot of a standard material or vray material will determine the strength of the reflections.

If you put a falloff map there, it will act as a MASK to control where the reflections shall appear. White (in the falloff map) will let the reflections pass thru and Black (in the falloff map) will stop the reflections.


paano po kung dark brown po yung color ng glass? saan ko ilalagay ang color na dark brown, sa diffuse, reflection or refraction?

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