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Post by v_wrangler on Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:55 pm


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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by mammoo_03 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:17 am

irreversible sir.

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by logikpixel on Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:32 am

How I wish we could stay back home. But what my wife and I earn now is what keeps us afloat in this current economic situation.
This is the sad truth.

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by Invincible on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:01 am

How i wish it can be reverse. . . thanks for sharing sir

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by jenaro on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:02 am

pede maayos ito,pero mahirap.kung sa cause pa lang eh maituwid na... 2thumbsup

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by Jack n'd Box on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:24 am

Sad truth indeed... How can we reverse this trend when it becomes the goal/dream of the generations to come..

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by KettleRenderer on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:51 am

hmmm.. maybe if we change the Philipine president ... and all of those NOT SO USEFUL government officials ...
create lots of jobs ... from a simple taga pulot ng poo-poo ng pet, to community cleaner, to employing vast number of service crews . among others are , of course trash collector..

maybe... just maybe it will reverse the sorry economy of the Philippines.

bawasan ang mga corrupt .. from policemen to government officials..

less crime pag madaming work ..

and please .. stop your president sa pangarap nyang monarchy government.. (i just heard). kce hindi pinoy ang magiging king ..
mashadong mataas ang pangarap ng presidente nyo, hindi naman abot ng kakayahan nya..
How i wish Marcos is still ruling our country..

and sana maging compulsory ang National Service, hindi lang un mga sumasali para maging sundalo.. sana lahat pwede sumali sa sandatahang lakas ng Pilipinas.. then we can create more jobs .. magagamit naman natin un dahil palaging mey war sa Pinas eh..

minsan naiisip ko din.. parang ang sarap sabihin..
UUWI NA KO SA PINAS, MAS MADAMI NA KONG OPPORTUNITY DUN KESA DITO ..

dun u ever wish that???

i do .. i love Philippines.. but i also call Singapore my second home ..
safe dito.. maayos.. nakikita mo kung san napupunta ang tax na binabayad mo.. bawal ang bribe.. at mey disiplina .. (hindi naman lahat)
malinis.. hindi ako ginagalis palagi .. he he he

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by jenaro on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:02 am

tama ka ate chie...di lang gov. less people din sana...kasi kung sino pa ung medyo hikahos eh un pa ang madami manganak ^^ 1000 papasok sa elem,400 na lang pagdating sa highskol,150 sa college...100 ang makakapagtapos 10 ang job opening...pano na?san na napunta ung iba?dyan na papasok ung crimes,at mga salot sa lipunan... bandera good government+less people to control,parang dito sa uae at dyan ilan lang ba ang local?

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by celes on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:17 am

ika nga ni michael jackson "if u want to make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make the change.. shammooonnah"

tama na bangayan, balat sibuyas, ningas kugon, crab mentality, etc. everything else follows.
shammooonnah


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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by v_wrangler on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:22 am

You then have to vote me for president, no?

Just kidding.

Thanks your for the kind responses.

Seriously now, I think it is about time to forget the government - they aren't in the mood and they aren't willing to change the pattern. If you want change in the people who run the government - do not vote for patronage. Do not vote for people who have vested interests in power. Tell your family the same thing.

So what can we do as individuals? How can we, people who live outside of the Philippines contribute to realizing such a dream?

1. Make your momma proud. Do your work will all diligence. make your employers feel proud and his business safe with you as an employee. Gain their trust and confidence.

2. Excel. Do your best and be number 1. Forget what they told you in grade school. Mabuhay ang pinoy? No... Mabuhay ang magaling! That's it. Forget our flawed interpretation of nationalism. Mabuhay ang Pinoy, pero yung matitino at magagaling lang. Kung gusto mong makasama doon - always exert your best effort in all that you do and in the process do not pull your peers Kababayan man o hindi down. Pull them UP!

3. Save. Do not flaunt wealth lalo na kung hindi mo inani. Learn to save for a better tomorrow. Teach the same thing to your kids, sisters at sa lahat ng umaasa sa iyong padala. Hannga't may padala ka - lalong dumarami ang tamad sa Pilipinas.

4. Learn from the experiences of your hosts abroad, learn new skills from them. Adapt their good culture, dispose off the bad ones and compare them with yours. Become the new Filipino of the new century. Be a product of two cultures. That makes you wiser. Once you learn, spread the knowledge like wildfire. Di mo madadala sa libingan yan - just like your new celfone, new car and all those wealth you think you must let the world know about. True wealth is knowledge, friend and family!

5. Respect your elders. Follow the rules. If you can follow rules in the Americas, Singapore or in the Middle East - you can do it at home as well. Set an example to your kids, siblings, family, relatives or friends. Be nice to your hosts lalo na yong may control at kapangyarihan to farm out the jobs to you. kakailanaganin mo sila balang araw.


Kung magawa mo ang lahat ng ito - at time mo nang umuwi, mayroon kang backup at pabaon na tiwala ng isang masaya na banyagang beneficiary - you can always bring the skills and their trusts (and jobs) back home.


Sa ayaw man at sa gusto mo we need the help of the outside world. Dahil mas marami silang opportunities, trabaho at pera kesa sa yo. Pag magaling ka na, marami nang naipon na pondo sa Pilipinas, marami ka na ring natulungan at nabigyan ng trabaho, saka ka mag-isip kung papaano mo sisimulan ang self content creation.

The bottomline is: Be diligent, we thrustworthy, Save your earnings and become a good future employer at home.

Yan muna.

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by v_wrangler on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:41 am

mammoo_03 wrote:irreversible sir.

We have a saying here in Japan:

Akirameru no wa hayai'n ja nai?

Aren't you giving up too early?

atsaka

Yatte minai to wakaranai

You don't know unless you try doing it.


Very Happy

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by render master on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:52 am

v_wrangler wrote:

Seriously now, I think it is about time to forget the government - they aren't in the mood and they aren't willing to change the pattern. If you want change in the people who run the government - do not vote for patronage. Do not vote for people who have vested interests in power. Tell your family the same thing.

So what can we do as individuals? How can we, people who live outside of the Philippines contribute to realizing such a dream?

1. Make your momma proud. Do your work will all diligence. make your employers feel proud and his business safe with you as an employee. Gain their trust and confidence.

2. Excel. Do your best and be number 1. Forget what they told you in grade school. Mabuhay ang pinoy? No... Mabuhay ang magaling! That's it. Forget our flawed interpretation of nationalism. Mabuhay ang Pinoy, pero yung matitino at magagaling lang. Kung gusto mong makasama doon - always exert your best effort in all that you do and in the process do not pull your peers Kababayan man o hindi down. Pull them UP!

3. Save. Do not flaunt wealth lalo na kung hindi mo inani. Learn to save for a better tomorrow. Teach the same thing to your kids, sisters at sa lahat ng umaasa sa iyong padala. Hannga't may padala ka - lalong dumarami ang tamad sa Pilipinas.

4. Learn from the experiences of your hosts abroad, learn new skills from them. Adapt their good culture, dispose off the bad ones and compare them with yours. Become the new Filipino of the new century. Be a product of two cultures. That makes you wiser. Once you learn, spread the knowledge like wildfire. Di mo madadala sa libingan yan - just like your new celfone, new car and all those wealth you think you must let the world know about. True wealth is knowledge, friend and family!

5. Respect your elders. Follow the rules. If you can follow rules in the Americas, Singapore or in the Middle East - you can do it at home as well. Set an example to your kids, siblings, family, relatives or friends. Be nice to your hosts lalo na yong may control at kapangyarihan to farm out the jobs to you. kakailanaganin mo sila balang araw.

Kung magawa mo ang lahat ng ito - at time mo nang umuwi, mayroon kang backup at pabaon na tiwala ng isang masaya na banyagang beneficiary - you can always bring the skills and their trusts (and jobs) back home.

Sa ayaw man at sa gusto mo we need the help of the outside world. Dahil mas marami silang opportunities, trabaho at pera kesa sa yo. Pag magaling ka na, marami nang naipon na pondo sa Pilipinas, marami ka na ring natulungan at nabigyan ng trabaho, saka ka mag-isip kung papaano mo sisimulan ang self content creation.

The bottomline is: Be diligent, we thrustworthy, Save your earnings and become a good future employer at home.


I like these lines 2thumbsup

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by cubi_o: on Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:03 am

even we heard and saw the bad notions on our country.
but still some of us have hopes that it will be irreversible.
we know its hard to start eating the pie as a whole piece,
i believe by starting bits by bits hopes could be pull off on each sleeves.


though millions seek for green pasture around the globe,
but still there dreams were set on their own footland.
and besides, i dont want to get old working in other country
like cows milking for honey.hehhehe.



just start it on ourselves.for our family the most.
work smart.live to the fullest.



i agree all the posts above. Very Happy

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:14 am

reality bites Arrow

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by onzki on Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:14 am

For me- there is still hope:) matagal nga lang na process. I agree also in necessity of having a good leaders to lead the nation.. but I think the most important is the citizen- all of us must change ourselves first. ... so kaya mag-ipon na ng mag-ipon at magtayo ng business or firm sa pinas at umuwi na kagad for good hehe thumbsup

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by bakugan on Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:07 am

Sa aking palagay wala na tayong magagawa dahil malala na talaga ang kahirapan at ang mga kawatan sa gobyerno. "sana nanalo nalang si Eddie Gil bayad na sana ang utang ng Pilipinas." joke lang. "share ko po itong isang halimbawa : sa aming opisina sa DOH EV kitang kita na kumuha ng gasolina worth 3,000.00 yoong ka officemate ko na driver hindi man lang umusad ang kaso. kasi walng aksyon ang aming Admin. Officer. parang pinatawad nalang yata. Asus buhay.

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by Norman on Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:29 am

Sad nalungkot ako dun ha...hay...pilipinas kong mahal.......

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by silvercrown on Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:04 pm

irreversible...
OFW's remittances keeps Phil economy afloat... it generates the biggest income for the gov't, bigger than all the businesses in the Phil combined... kung tutuusin kayang bumangon ng bansa sa kahirapan...
Kaso, corruption is already a part of Phil. politics and it has become a way of life na... di na nagrereklamo ang ordinaryong pinoy kase nasanay na... at wala ring magagawa... cge magreklamo ka at baka di ka bigyan ng serbisyo... kalabanin mo yung kurap na politiko at baka pulutin ka nlng sa kangkungan...
Ang perang ina-allocate sa mga gov't projects kakarampot natitira kase nauubos sa porsyento ng mga official at politiko...

Anung gov't agency ang hindi corrupt? kung meron man...
Pagbabago sa politika? Wala na.... Twisted Evil
Patuloy na bumabagsak ang quality of life ng ordinaryong pinoy...

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by v_wrangler on Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:52 pm

ambilis ninyong sumuko.

If the subconscious tells you, you can't, It's like telling yourself you won't. Don't try to fix the problem in its entirety, focus on what you can do on your own, on your own resources, on your own time. If millions like you do the same thing - its like fixing the whole problem just the same.

The reason why the Philippines is in its sad state - because people have given up hope.. or just plain indifferent.

I have enumerated some of the things that you can possibly do - add to that your own ideas and I am sure you will have an effective policy much better than that of the government.

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by silvercrown on Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:24 pm

wala pong sumusuko sir vertex...
in fact yung mga pinoy (di kasali ang mga politiko at mga corrupt sa gobyerno) are just focus on doing things on their own, their own resources, on their own time... kaya nga nagiging DH, OFW etc yung iba, may mga nangangalkal ng basura para lang makaraos sa pangaraw-araw... people have Not given up hope... they're neither indifferent... di na po sila umaasa sa gobyerno natin...
Lalo pang dadami ang OFW... lalo pang dadami ang mangangalkal ng basura...
Masakit man isipin, pero yan ang totoo...


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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by jenaro on Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:49 pm

i think di naman sumusuko ang mga pinoy sa point ni sir silvercrown it just that di na focus ng mga pinoy(na hikahos) sa pagbabago kundi ang makasurvive...the first step of changes is to survive first...pero sa part naten na ok naman ang pamumuhay kahit papano pede tayo ang magsimulan ng pagbabago. 2thumbsup

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:40 pm

hmmnnn... makisali na rin ako sa usapan. i guess as ofw na umaasa sa income na nanggagaling sa ibang country & nationality at namuhay na ng kung ilang taon sa ibang bansa ay wala ako sa position para maghangad ng pagbabago sa isang bansa na matagal din naman akong hindi namalagi na, kasi hindi natin mararamdaman ang totoong hirap ng nasa bansang sinilangan. malamang marami na dito ang ilang years na bilang ofw and minsan isang taon na lang kung umuwi or ang dahilan e "bakit pa uuwi gastos lang yan?" kayo, ilang taon na ba kayong wala sa pinas? (hindi kasama ang bakasyon lang) kayo ba ay nakikilahok sa pagboto? come to think of it, we as ofw keep on saying na kung sana may magandang opportunity lang sa pinas e dun na tayo magwowork, but is it really the only reason kaya tayo nagwork sa ibang bansa? or the craving to live in other countries with all the benefits we can have while staying? being an ofw, like no tax, high salaries, security & safety... etc... etc...

paano nga ba masasalamin ang pagiging makabayan? paano malalaman ang tunay na pagmamahal sa bayan? sa pagbili ba ng sariling product natin? hindi ba't karamihan sa atin ay branded ang gusto sa kahit anong product? sa pagremit ba ng salary?, mahirap sagutin... marami ang nagsasabing dahil sa pagtratrabaho natin nakakatulong tayo sa bayan, meron bang improvement mga ka cgp? sa isang araw ilan ang nadadagdag na ofw, meron bang pagbabago at kaginhawahan? nabawasan ba ang utang ng ating bansa sa tuwing may isang pinoy na magdecide magwork sa ibang bansa? WALA at HINDI di ba? paanong magbabago ang isang bansa na pagdating mo pa lang sa airport ay may ipakisuyo ka lang sa kapwa mo pinoy na nagwowork sa airport ay bubulungan ka ng "ikaw na bahala sir ha". paano magbabago ang isang bansa na ultimo alpabeto ay hango sa banyaga?

masarap ang pagbabago, maganda ang walang corruption, maayos na pamumuhay, magandang income, malinis na paligid pero too good to be true yan lalo na sa pinoy. sad but true Twisted Evil

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by dpyxl on Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:45 am

we cannot only blame the government how we sucks nowadays.. politics, local media, economics, church and every "juan" of us is involve in this system of the down we live in, it still dog bit dog tale, why we always making this temporary escapegoats everytime we are squared off, we are also part of this so-called crime.

hope will always be here and will be there, though change is not instant, it may lightyears away, but some do believe miracle do happen.. but not today.

in the end of the day, we can ask ourselves, did we do our part to change that system? as simple as it is, did we ever pay our taxes fair? did we not cheat on our office time? did we try not to do simple white lies??

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by Alapaap on Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:06 am

Masalimuot yan mga sir,sanga sanga na ang dahilan..noong araw pa na diagnose na Rizal na may sakit na cancer ang Pinas.."datte shoganai desu"-wala na tayong magagawa...sa pinas pero sa mga sarili natin meron...at biblically based nasa hula yan papunta na sa kahirapan lahat kahit mga puti nararamdaman na yan...kaya kahit sino pa iupo natin diyan sa trono ganun pa rin..

Kung iisipin natin maraming ibang lahi at majority nasa ongpin,binondo at tondo ang ayaw umalis ng pinas..kapag ang pasikot-sikot ng pinas alam natin (kung sino ang haharapin at didikitan) dika maba-bankrupt..mga Koryano nga dumadami sa Pinas sa parteng Pampanga lomolobo na..

Kung namulat ang iyong mga mata sa kahirapan at likas na dukha na..its a matter of choice kung gusto mong umahon o makontento kana sa ganoong kalagayan..

Pinoy blood angat ka kaya mo yan

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Re: How can we reverse the trend?

Post by 3dpjumong2007 on Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:46 am

" Thou shall not eat the fruit if you shall eat of it you shall die!" its clear mga bro our supreme being has given as the option to do or not to do ,He has given his part 90 percent 10 percent lng sa atin ..if we have absolute faith it might change !like tita cory who showed us the sample of unwavering faith...even by her death we pinoys are re-united by her strong will to change...we need a heart like CORY ... kaya we have to be wise kung sino ngayon pipiliin natin.. it should have cory's character...nice one sir wrangler ...its sad and its a 360 deg turnover ...it still depends sa atin yun.."to eat or not to eat"to do or not to do..to be responsible or not ..

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