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Post by cubi_o: on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:43 am

Payag ba kayo dito?

In my point of view. mas ok pa rin ang mayroon drafting sa design subject.coz in that way, andoon yung heart and soul ng pagsungkit mo ng license. Pero this reformat had been approved. Ang daming issues ang lumabas dito na dapat matalakay.
May mga nag petition na regarding this issue pero still waiting for the final say. Pero since its approved na, nothing much to do with this issue.

Kayo what can you share? Question

Reformat of the LEA Archl Design Subject


The PRC has approved the PRBoA proposal to REFORMAT the Architectural Design and Site Planning Subject (the "Subject"), which comprise forty percent (40%) of the licensure examination for architects (LEA).

The Subject will now be a NON-DRAFTING examination and will also be of the multiple short situational problem, multiple choice format (with sketching and calculations required but not graded). The superseded mode was a single long situational problem format requiring a manually drafted solution.

The future examinees shall be allowed to bring copies ONLY OF Rules VII and VII of the 2004 Revised Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of P.D. No. 1096, otherwise known as the 1977 National Building Code of the Philippines/ NBCP to DAY 2 of the LEA.

These sections could be readily downloaded for free at the Latest Publications section of this website i.e. posted at the following dates:

a) 2008-06-07 Natl Bldg Code IRR Rule VII; and

b) 2008-06-07 Natl Bldg Code IRR Rule VIII.

Examinees may NOT bring NOR use copies of the Foz version of the National Building Code sold at the National Bookstore due to apparently material deficiencies in the text of the said publication.




here's the link: http://architectureboard.ph/news.php?id=63#main

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by mammoo_03 on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:29 am

ngek, pangit nang rule na ito, as architects, we need to draw (back to basics kung baga), pwede naman nilang ilagay ang mga multiple choice sa first day ah. They are decreasing the art of architecture.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by cubi_o: on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:41 am

yup sir mac.. i totally agree with you.
ang nangyayari kase sa atin, ang daming architecture grad na d na nagte take, kase for some reason na rin.. there's also an issue here that architects in the philippines did not even reach half the count of the civil engineers,which lately nagkaroon din ng issue dyan between civil engineers and architects.

i'd still prefer the basic drafting design to be an architect.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Yhna on Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:39 am

hindi ako sang-ayon dito. di man ako isang arki.
kasi drafting is been the very basic of being an arki....

multiple choice pwedeng madaya,
pero drafting.... well unless mag bibitbit ka ng draughtsman on your exam
lol!

but seriously, di to maganda..... Mad

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by cubi_o: on Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:41 am

it somehow benifits to the newly grad and to the upcoming examiners.
Board exams are somehow gauge of what you've learned in your 5 years course.

but when you comes into the real world, registration number and ranking is not the measurement.

Smile

@ ma'am yhna

ang hirap kayang magdala ng draftsman..
mas mahal pa lalo ang exam..hehe. lol!


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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Invincible on Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:02 am

yaaaaaaaaaa. . hope mas madali

pero i agree with this kc i believe ang designing is dapat di minamadali. . dapat pinagiisipan. . . eh kung situational lang which is in reality ginagawa ng architect lalo na pag nasa firm ka puro request for information sa site magagamit talaga. . .

tama to tama to. . . kc naman hindi ka mag dedesign ng isang buong araw sa mga real projects dba??

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:58 am

Thanks for sharing Sir Juniel,-Kung totoo man ito di malayo na balang araw ay mawawala
ang Design Subject na rin actually parang ganun na rin po yun eh.

Uu nga naman kapag multiple choice madali mag check kasi may Computer na di tulad ng may
Drafting matagal i check hahaha.Architecture Board exam po ito hindi Laws Examination. Laughing

-Kung Drafting ang tatanggalin parang Design na rin ang nawala kasi
sa Drafting mo lang naman mapapakita o ma express ang kaalaman mo sa Design eh bilang Arkitekto.


Mas maiintindihan ko pa sana kung ginawa nilang Autocadd Drafting sasang ayon pa ako
kasi Computerization na tayo ngayon.

Maraming disadvantages to sa palagay ko lang po.


- Hindi kaya, di na magsikap ang mga estudyante na mag drafting?
-Hindi kaya hihina ang estudyante sa Design Subject kasi puro dedepende na lang tayo sa
Books na gawa nila or pinagkunan ng mga Examination tutal wala naman Design na.
-Hindi kaya Mawawala na ang pagka arstist ng isang Arkiitekto kung magka ganito man?
-Hindi kaya Tatamarin na ang estudyante na mag Design ng ayon sa pinaniniwalaan nila at inpirasyon
mula sa ating magagaling na Arkitekto sa Buong mundo sapagkat wala na silang chance na
ipakita ang Design upang ipakunsulta sa mga Bihasa na.

Non Drafting ay walang pinagkaiba sa nawalang Design Subject.....oh Nooooooooooo No


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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:12 am

i think di ito gaano pinagaralan ng mabuti bago ipinasa ang batas...tama bang tangalin ung drafting?!i know computer age na tayo...but as an architect,basically we need to know how to draw.kawawa naman ang mga future archts on this...maski nga multiple choice ayoko din imho,old school exam sana...ung tipong papadetail sayo ang mga columns,capitals...malamang kung ganito ung exam madami saten mahihirap pero worth it naman.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by ishae_clanx on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:15 am

whooooo matutuwa ang mga kumuha ng architecture na hindi nagseryoso nung nagaaral...tsk tsk tsk degrading na ba ang arki sa pinas?

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:19 am

ishae_clanx wrote:whooooo matutuwa ang mga kumuha ng architecture na hindi nagseryoso nung nagaaral...tsk tsk tsk degrading na ba ang arki sa pinas?
uu nga bro!kung anong ginagawang pagsisikap naten mapataas ang ating propesyon ng Architecture,tapos ganito ang gagawin...imbes upgrading,tsk tsk tsk...

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Invincible on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:43 am

well ganito din naman sa iba profession. . narereformat mga board exam . . well lets see the feedback kapag may nagexam na hehehe

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by cubi_o: on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:16 pm

as much as i wanted. gusto ko rin to have a drafting design in board exam.
kase it is the core for achieving in your profession.
sa link na we found out, walang signature been issued, only names. still thinking if
it is a hoax.

but for this statement issued, im a bit disappointed.
but for sure things will be clarify on the upcoming days.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by srm852002 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:11 am

Wala p ako nababalita na ganito sir even sa uap website at sa chapter president namin na may ganitong resoluton..maybe its a hoax nga..

Clarify ko nga eto at post ko dito whatever I found out...
Kung totoo man very disappointing to..

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by bokkins on Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:45 am

May nakapagtanong sakin nito before dito sa private message. Nagulat din ako. although parang sa middle east daw yata muna itatry ito. I'm not sure. But here is my opinion on this.

Ok lang, kasi age na tayo ng cad ngayon, so konti nalng talaga ang nagdadrafting when it comes to output for permit. mas maigi nga na may computer na sa exams, pro syempre, hindi pa kakayanin. I think it is more important to use sketches in exams rather than drafting. Mas may laman ang sketches sa tingin ko in terms of ideas ang concepts. Ito ang dapat talaga nating sanayin rather than drafting. although of course mas ok din talaga na marunong magdrafting.

1 more thing, medyo time consuming talaga ang drafting kasi pinapaganda mo pa talaga ang gawa mo. So yung concept medyo less ang importance sayo while doing it. so yun lang cguro ang mashare ko. tingnan nalang natin ang maging results nito, it's not that bad a change naman cguro. I'm sure this is for a good cause. good luck sa mga examinees! Smile

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by cubi_o: on Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:31 am

Tama c sir bokks..dito nga sa middle east nila uumpisahan. may rumor din na mauuna ang qatar, then sunod sunod na ang upcoming exams dito sa abroad.kase wala naman talga sa Law na ang exam hahabol sa mga examinees. for the sake na rin na lahat nag tratrabaho so they are giving it an oppurtunity, d lng to exam sa Architecture, may CPA, CIVIL at iba rin.
eto yung pages na na forward sa akin which showcase no signature. May advantages and disadvantages ang ganitong resolution. Pero "no permanent in this world except changes". Very Happy..hehe.




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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by cubi_o: on Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:34 am

sencia na doble..hehe. nag hung kase..
akala ko d nasend. peace man

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jefferson01 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:07 am

nung una ko itong nabalitaan cyempre ntuwa ako kc paramg mas npadali yata PERO nung ngisip isip ako "ayy sablay pala!!!...."

kc sa mga npansin ko my mga arki grad n bubot parin, n simpleng dtailing ehh d p mgawa ng maayos.. kung required man nila ang sketches ehh my mga arki n kung mgsketch ehh cla lng ang nkakaunawa tpos papasa cla dahil chamba tpos ganun din gagawin sa actual ehhh chamba... para skin nkakatakot lng... Shocked

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:07 am

Sino ba naman kasi nagsabi na mag Drafting ng Bonggang Bongga sa Design Examination? Laughing
I think walang score ang Drafting Very Happy Sa totoo lang po Kaibigan mas matataas pa nga ang
nakukuhang Grade sa Design kapag "Freehand" lang. Kaya di ko tlaga maintindihan
kung nagpapalusot lang ba sila? Kasi kung tutuusin di naman issue dito ang Drafting
eh pwede naman I freehand at list kahit papaano naka scale kahit sukat Mata lang.
Ngayon kung magpapalusot na naman na di ka marunong mag sketch kasi
computer na ngayon Aba!!!malinaw na dapat huwag kang ipasa bilang Arkitekto.
No point para gawing Non Drafting ang Design tama sabi ni Sir Bokkins pwede naman
Sketches lang at list galing talaga sayo ang Concept ng Design. Kahit kailan di
matatapos ang Battle between Practicality and Art palagi magkasama yan sa Design.



Sana may magawa pa tayong paraan bago mahuli ang lahat! Embarassed

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by icefrik19 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:46 pm

i agree an architect must know how sketch works...tanong lang implement ba nila dito sa pinas this january?kc pasok ako.hehehe malas nman mas gusto ko drafting rather multiple choice the hearth is not there so di mo madistinquise how an examinee has an architectural touch on the design problem.. sna nman ala pa. maraming aayaw dito..

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by theomatheus on Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:17 pm

AUSTRIA wrote:Sino ba naman kasi nagsabi na mag Drafting ng Bonggang Bongga sa Design Examination? Laughing
I think walang score ang Drafting Very Happy Sa totoo lang po Kaibigan mas matataas pa nga ang
nakukuhang Grade sa Design kapag "Freehand" lang. Kaya di ko tlaga maintindihan
kung nagpapalusot lang ba sila? Kasi kung tutuusin di naman issue dito ang Drafting
eh pwede naman I freehand at list kahit papaano naka scale kahit sukat Mata lang.
Ngayon kung magpapalusot na naman na di ka marunong mag sketch kasi
computer na ngayon Aba!!!malinaw na dapat huwag kang ipasa bilang Arkitekto.
No point para gawing Non Drafting ang Design tama sabi ni Sir Bokkins pwede naman
Sketches lang at list galing talaga sayo ang Concept ng Design. Kahit kailan di
matatapos ang Battle between Practicality and Art palagi magkasama yan sa Design.



Sana may magawa pa tayong paraan bago mahuli ang lahat! Embarassed


sir tama ung cnbi u.."No point para gawing Non Drafting ang Design"
cguro tumatanda na kz ung mga nakaupo sa prc.at ung chairman ng BOA.kya tinatamad mag check ng mano mano..>>>>>.
drafting and sketching is basic, pag nakikipag usap ako sa client nag iisketch ako na nakaharap sila...cguro kaya ung iba gusto ng multiple choice dhil sa totoo lng dipa marunong mag sketch and kinalawang na ung kamay nila at nanginginig gusto ng mga iba dyan puro zoom pan zoom pan, dyan lng cla magaling....

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by markuz23 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:27 pm

sabe ng isa sa mga kilala kong architect ginaya daw tong format sa archi board exam sa US., ang basehan daw nila,kung familiar ka sa building laws, papasa ka,pero sa opinion ko lng..tutal open forum nmn to,bka nahihirapan na si chairman ALI na mg-check ng design...(tingin ko lng po)

this December, aspiring architect will be taking LEA sa Abu Dhabi at malamang iimplement na tong new format ng design EXAm...

sayang,kung mgkagnon man,d man lng nila naexperience ung thrill ng LAst day ng exam... Smile peace!

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by thur zerreitug on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:55 am

tanong ko lang kung yung www.architectureboard.ph recognize ba yan ng prc at uap? kasi yung hinanap ko sa prc. wala silang link dun.

>> kung ma-implement yan. tapos may mga situational questions pa.
parang nursing na rin yun dating. ang gagawin dyan, halos pareho
lahat yung choices. pero pick the best answer.

example question:
what is the official thickness of plywood?
a. 1" b.1/4" c. 3/4" d. 1/2"
> tba lahat naman sila official size? so pick the best choice.
tapos 150 questions na ganyan type. nakakapang tuliro ng utak.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:58 am

One point na Reason nila na dapat at list 30 days bago mag solve ang Design Problem.
I think Nobody can say na Dapat ganito at ito ang Tamang
Solution sa isang Design Problem kahit Board Member pa wala yan nakahandang Sagot sa Design Problem.
One Design Problem has Thousands Solutions!!! So meaning to say sa Design Examination di naman tinitingnan
diyan kung 'ANO' ang Solution mo eh kundi "Tha way you Solve the Problem". Pero magagawa mo lang yung
sa pamamagitan ng Drafting or Sketches. Pwede naman isabay ang Design in Future Exam mas okey
pa nga kung in Future 3dMAX or CAdd ang Drafting at makikita pa rin ang
kakayahan ng isang Architect. Kahit siguro 1 year ka mag Design di mo pa rin pwede sabihin na yan ang the
Best Solution sa Design Problem hanggat di pa ginagamit ng Tao ang Structure mo. "No Perfect Solution".
At list kahit di mo man napakita sa Board Member ang Best Solution mo napakita mo pa rin sa kanila
na ito ang "ALAM" ko Chairman marunong ako gumawa ng Bubble Diagram,Flow Chart,Zoning,Buiding Code
Sizes ng Room,Hallway,Gaano kataas ang Level,slope road echt. kahit "PANGIT" ang Drafting mo
dahil sa pagmamadali mo kasi walang time okey lang at
list napatunayan mo pa rin na kaya mo mag DESIGN.

Im afraid na someday na I Kwento mo na lang sa Anak mo ang Experience mo sa Design Board Examination.


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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by zildian_nico on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:53 am

i agree with you mga sir kung gnito lng mn sana wala nlng subject n design kung hindi....mo nman magagamit pg board exam... more on theory and study nlng ang subject...as an architecture ang specialtist ntin are more on design....

more on compterize nga tayo pro wag ntin san tyo galing...

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by nahumreigh on Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:21 am

hmmmmm dapat yung format na ganyan sa construction/building tech/structural subjects i-apply... eheh challenge yan sa mga upcoming takers...

imagine niyo mga tanong na ganito...

1. Sketch a detail cross-section of the connecting blah blah blah to a retaining wall wall of blah blah blah thickness... o kaya naman
2. Sketch where this blah blah blah could be installed in this blah blah blah space so that in conforms with the accessibility law...

eheheh... la lang.... as for design, tingin ko mas okay pa rin nga yung may single situational problem na bubunuin mo nang isang araw... although kelangan lang siguro mas siguraduhin nila na yung drafted requirements nila eh yung importante lang, at yun tingin nilang makakademonstrate talaga ng design skills ng takers... hindi yung manghihingi sila ng anim na perspective na lima dun wala namang kwenta... ahehehehe

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