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Post by cubi_o: on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:43 am

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Payag ba kayo dito?

In my point of view. mas ok pa rin ang mayroon drafting sa design subject.coz in that way, andoon yung heart and soul ng pagsungkit mo ng license. Pero this reformat had been approved. Ang daming issues ang lumabas dito na dapat matalakay.
May mga nag petition na regarding this issue pero still waiting for the final say. Pero since its approved na, nothing much to do with this issue.

Kayo what can you share? Question

Reformat of the LEA Archl Design Subject


The PRC has approved the PRBoA proposal to REFORMAT the Architectural Design and Site Planning Subject (the "Subject"), which comprise forty percent (40%) of the licensure examination for architects (LEA).

The Subject will now be a NON-DRAFTING examination and will also be of the multiple short situational problem, multiple choice format (with sketching and calculations required but not graded). The superseded mode was a single long situational problem format requiring a manually drafted solution.

The future examinees shall be allowed to bring copies ONLY OF Rules VII and VII of the 2004 Revised Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of P.D. No. 1096, otherwise known as the 1977 National Building Code of the Philippines/ NBCP to DAY 2 of the LEA.

These sections could be readily downloaded for free at the Latest Publications section of this website i.e. posted at the following dates:

a) 2008-06-07 Natl Bldg Code IRR Rule VII; and

b) 2008-06-07 Natl Bldg Code IRR Rule VIII.

Examinees may NOT bring NOR use copies of the Foz version of the National Building Code sold at the National Bookstore due to apparently material deficiencies in the text of the said publication.




here's the link: http://architectureboard.ph/news.php?id=63#main

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by nahumreigh on Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:21 am

hmmmmm dapat yung format na ganyan sa construction/building tech/structural subjects i-apply... eheh challenge yan sa mga upcoming takers...

imagine niyo mga tanong na ganito...

1. Sketch a detail cross-section of the connecting blah blah blah to a retaining wall wall of blah blah blah thickness... o kaya naman
2. Sketch where this blah blah blah could be installed in this blah blah blah space so that in conforms with the accessibility law...

eheheh... la lang.... as for design, tingin ko mas okay pa rin nga yung may single situational problem na bubunuin mo nang isang araw... although kelangan lang siguro mas siguraduhin nila na yung drafted requirements nila eh yung importante lang, at yun tingin nilang makakademonstrate talaga ng design skills ng takers... hindi yung manghihingi sila ng anim na perspective na lima dun wala namang kwenta... ahehehehe

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by render master on Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:02 am

it was, dito nga sa middle east ang magiging try out nila. good thing din for the following reasons

1 - the examination venue was too far from the examinee and they have to bringt their own drawing paraphernalia. some examinee joined together in a rent a car from their own pocket, sharing is an advantage, bringing drafting board is disadvantage.
2 - last year exams was shortened from its usual exam time, pressuring all the examinee to finish the exam on time especially the design and drafting. from 3 days, it was shortened to 2 days only

i wish i could share all the experiences of the examinee here, siguro next time na lang.

anyway..... were not sure if the revised format have an advantages or disadvantages. we havent yet been there so i cant comment for now. passing examination as a whole does not rely or depend mainly on the drafting skills. if the drafting skills will be the basis then why not take drafting technology. there are some design problems that can be solved without using the drafting board. some illustration will do and i think this was thier objective in revising the procedures. maybe they are preparing the future architects na maging adaptable sa changing technology. (imho)

anyway lets wait and see for the come up of this updates.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by arki_vhin on Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:16 am

baka sa susunod maisip na nila gawing CAD drafting...hehehe...
pag di maganda resulta ng exam papa revise nanaman nila yan....

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by cubi_o: on Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:57 am

malalaman natin lahat in upcoming days kase malapit na ang exam dyan sa
SAUDI sunod ang UAE.

advantage i meant - is pabor cya sa mga kukuha kase for the less hassles
in comparison sa traditional board exam for 3 days.
disadvantage nya..para sa akin lng- is yung heart ng designing during 3rd day is
wala na yun, kase more on multiple choice na talga cya, theoritical at situational.

* sinabihan din kami dito kung bakit no drafting na,
dahil sa checking din ng 3rd day manually.


pero pinag isipan na nila 'to kung sakali mang mag success ang pag ammend nito.



Kaya para sa mga kukuha....
Goodluck!!
Lapit nahh!! buttrock

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by revtrax on Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:12 am

architects must always learn the basics and fundamentals but times are changing and they they just trying to keep up with the trend but we must always know the basic and foundation of architecture

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:14 am

Goodluck sa mga kukuha!
http://www.cgpinoy.org/documents-processes-f80/architectural-board-exam-reviewer-t4313.htm?highlight=reviewer

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by wireframan on Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:44 am

Sa palagay ko mas ok kung wala ng drafting... marami sa mga examiners ang hindi naka pasa sa board dahil hindi naka tapus dahil mabagal sa drafting. Pero kung gagawing final to eh.. dapat din reformat ang o dagdagan ang subjects sa BS Arch. Drafting and Manual. Nung student pa ako mga plates ko sa design are mustly freehand but scaled. Mas Mabilis matapus kay sa drafting. Laughing

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by tsukoy on Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:29 am

its so sad to think if this will be implemented. ang panghuhula sa multiple choice "madaling matyambahan pero ang skill ng isang architekto ay hndi matutumbasan". drawing and sketching is our way of presenting our ideas to our clients. if given a choice although computer presentation na lahat, bilang architect sana give time to enhance our manual drafting skills parin. very essential parin ang manual. wish icould share my experience nung nagboard exam ako to all upcoming people na magtatake ng exam. buttrock

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by xxdarcxx on Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:22 pm

dapat arstructural math nalang ang tanggalin nila!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
di naman natin trabahu yun eh.............. diba diba diba???

what is the essence of being an architect kung tatanggalin nila yung drawing??

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by WURPWURPS on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:23 am

THIS IS ALL B*LLSH*T, sorry ah! Drafting make us unique from other professionals na kumuha ng license, diba diba diba. wala na sense! kung gusto nila mapabilis ang checking dahil marami i checheck,(di ko alam kung eto ang dahilan) edi kumuha sila ng maraming magchecheck, at magdag dag ng oras sa drafting dahil bitin na bitin, gawin two days pero wag tanggalin!

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by arkimead_21 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:56 am

theres always to sides talaga in every story kya sigarado hati nnman mga tao jn!!!sana lang maresolve na nila yn nang final para di nalilito ung mga mgttake ng board diba???ang hirap ng sitwasyon!!! Sad Sad



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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:27 am

WURPWURPS wrote:THIS IS ALL B*LLSH*T, sorry ah! Drafting make us unique from other professionals na kumuha ng license, diba diba diba. wala na sense! kung gusto nila mapabilis ang checking dahil marami i checheck,(di ko alam kung eto ang dahilan) edi kumuha sila ng maraming magchecheck, at magdag dag ng oras sa drafting dahil bitin na bitin, gawin two days pero wag tanggalin!

relax lang sir...hehehhe,im sure my rison for that kaya ganun.di naman prob for sure ang checking nya...specially sa 3rd day,kc more on sorting ang pagchecheck ng BOA..process of elimanation kung baga,first number of sheet used(sa test alam na nila kung ilang sheet ang dapat magamit soo kung ang sheet eh 5 tapos nagawa mo lang 3 itatabi muna ung ung sheet mo),sunod kung tama ung solusyon(kung wala ung solusyon sa sheet mo itatabi muna ulit un)etc....madali lang ang process nila kaya ders no rison na may problem sa checking i think.im sure madami na ngtatanong ng rison kung bakit ganito ang format,better ask naten ung prof ko na member ng BOA,atcc@yahoo.com Archt.Angeline T. Chua Chiaco...

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by corpsegrinder on Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:20 am

xempre sa mga tapos na sa board exams e ayaw tlga nila kc tapos na cla e, kaya ang iba mejo masama ang loob..... sa mga aspiring p o wala pang experience cguro gusto nila or hndi p nila alam...... un lng..ganun.. ..."tsamba tsamba, sense sense korni" ano p man yan alam mo sa sarili mo kung deserving k... kung ang multiple choice ay madaling matsambahan, ang "drafting" b ay ang dapat na skill ng arkitekto?... agree rn ky sir boks...

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by WURPWURPS on Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 am

corpsegrinder wrote:xempre sa mga tapos na sa board exams e ayaw tlga nila kc tapos na cla e, kaya ang iba mejo masama ang loob..... sa mga aspiring p o wala pang experience cguro gusto nila or hndi p nila alam...... un lng..ganun.. ..."tsamba tsamba, sense sense korni" ano p man yan alam mo sa sarili mo kung deserving k... kung ang multiple choice ay madaling matsambahan, ang "drafting" b ay ang dapat na skill ng arkitekto?... agree rn ky sir boks...

sa bagay. tama sinabi nung friend ko, di naman lahat ng arkitekto magaling sa drafting, or sa manual, si walter gropiuos nga mahina talaga sa manual drafting, and sketch,(Ayon sa napanood ko na video) pero isang henyo pag dating sa Idea and concept hirap lang sa translation by means of sketch or drawings, hehehe, pero sa POV ko well, sana di mawala, yun lang! GOOD LUCK sa mga kukuha netong darating na exam!

Sabi nga Ni JEJE QUEDENG prof ko sa review "madali lang ang board exam (kahit di ka nagreview, kahit di ka magaling magdrawing), basta na sa PUSO mo ang pagiging ARKITEKTO"

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Muggz on Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:14 am

mamatanggi paba kung implemented na?
regualatory board parin ang masusunod,,
parang scale rule lang yan againts calculator ng C>E

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Muggz on Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:16 am

we are thinkers,,,not draftsmans,,,drafting is just a tool to illustrate something that cannot be interpeted by words or verbs,,,gayunpaman require parin ang freehand sketch but not a counted score,,you are still required to draw before you shade the letter of your choice,,,di naman siguro nila gagawin official ito kung walang dryrun at walang basehan,,,remember mga arkitekto rin ang mga gumawa nito,,,,all we can do is just trust our colleagues...

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by tsukoy on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:24 pm

WURPWURPS wrote:
corpsegrinder wrote:xempre sa mga tapos na sa board exams e ayaw tlga nila kc tapos na cla e, kaya ang iba mejo masama ang loob..... sa mga aspiring p o wala pang experience cguro gusto nila or hndi p nila alam...... un lng..ganun.. ..."tsamba tsamba, sense sense korni" ano p man yan alam mo sa sarili mo kung deserving k... kung ang multiple choice ay madaling matsambahan, ang "drafting" b ay ang dapat na skill ng arkitekto?... agree rn ky sir boks...

sa bagay. tama sinabi nung friend ko, di naman lahat ng arkitekto magaling sa drafting, or sa manual, si walter gropiuos nga mahina talaga sa manual drafting, and sketch,(Ayon sa napanood ko na video) pero isang henyo pag dating sa Idea and concept hirap lang sa translation by means of sketch or drawings, hehehe, pero sa POV ko well, sana di mawala, yun lang! GOOD LUCK sa mga kukuha netong darating na exam!

Sabi nga Ni JEJE QUEDENG prof ko sa review "madali lang ang board exam (kahit di ka nagreview, kahit di ka magaling magdrawing), basta na sa PUSO mo ang pagiging ARKITEKTO"
prof mo si quedeng? he was my batchmate and classmate in FEU before. bwahahahahaha sya lang ang nkitaan ko ng ngretoke ng lot description sa kanyang thesis before. heheheehhehe Laughing aba teacher na pala ang loko.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Nico.Patdu on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:11 am

maybe PRC wanted to focus on your architectural knowledges not with your drafting, thats why dey whant to make it a no drafting exam.drafting is just a representation of yor knowledges. Smile

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by render master on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:30 am

di naman ibig sabihin nito mawawala na ang drafting all the rest of your life kapag alang drafting sa board exam... so why getting mad about it...

and take note, its not your drafting skill ang nira-rate nila sa exam mo. its how you resolve a certain design problem. medyo pina bilis lang ang prosesso. dont judge yet the book by its cover. scratch

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by remlex on Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:11 am

render master wrote:di naman ibig sabihin nito mawawala na ang drafting all the rest of your life kapag alang drafting sa board exam... so why getting mad about it...

and take note, its not your drafting skill ang nira-rate nila sa exam mo. its how you resolve a certain design problem. medyo pina bilis lang ang prosesso. dont judge yet the book by its cover. scratch


agree! pinag isipan ng husto yan bago naapproved... thumbsup
tara na exam na tau mga tols, wala kc akng dalang drafting table eh, so ok lng sa kin,hehe! peace man

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by corpsegrinder on Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:19 am

remlex wrote:
render master wrote:di naman ibig sabihin nito mawawala na ang drafting all the rest of your life kapag alang drafting sa board exam... so why getting mad about it...

and take note, its not your drafting skill ang nira-rate nila sa exam mo. its how you resolve a certain design problem. medyo pina bilis lang ang prosesso. dont judge yet the book by its cover. scratch


agree! pinag isipan ng husto yan bago naapproved... thumbsup
tara na exam na tau mga tols, wala kc akng dalang drafting table eh, so ok lng sa kin,hehe! peace man

hehehe! tara exam na tau lahat!!! ayaw ko na rn ng drafting sawa na ako nung 4th yr isang taon puro esquisse kapagod sa likod! wala na rn ako tsquare!

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:18 pm

Like wat Ive said walang score ang "Drafting" at di po dito usapin ang magaling ka mag Drafting eh I think ang
importante at list marunong ka lang. Laughing Kasi sa pamamagitan ng Drafting
lamang po maipapakita ang ating kaalaman sa Design. Sa totoo lang po di naman talaga Drafting ang pinaka issue
dito kundi ang paka wala ng Design kung iisipin po nating mabuti. IMHO lang mga dude!! NON DRAFTING
is also like NON DESIGN SUBJECT. Syempre sinasabi lang nilang Drafting pero ganun na rin yun kaibigan.
Sana lang huwag natin ituon sa Drafting ang issue kundi sa Design Subject na dating nanggagaling sa atin
ang idea pero ngayon hindi na. "Of course theres noting Wrong in Design and theres is no exact answer"
Kaya di pwedeng gawing Questionaire ang Design kahit situational pa kasi maraming sagot?
Baka isang araw may lumapit sayo na Client at sabihin na pwede ba Sketch mo muna sa akin?
Ano gagawin mo? scratch magpapalusot ka na lang ba sa client mo? na mas okey sa Computer mag
sketch or may nakahanda ka na lang na design para kopyahin? Malaki po ang pagbabago mga kaibigan
kung dati galing sayo ang sagot pero ngayon sa kanila na at Conflict na ito mula sa natutunan natin sa DESIGN SUBJECT
di po maaaring nag iisa lang ang Sagot... I remember when I was in College sa tuwing nagbibigay
ang Instructor ko ng Design Problem palagi niyang sinasabi at pinapaalala sa Design Class niya na
Kung gaano karami ang bilang na mag Solve ng Design Problem ganun din karami ang bilang ng "SOLUTION".
Kahit po sabihin natin na di Importante ang Drafting kundi yung IDEA bakit di nila ginawang 'ESSAY' na lang ang Design
mas matutuwa pa siguro tayo at list galing pa rin sayo ang IDEA. Pero sa totoo lang po di ko talaga lubos maisip
Papaano ba gumawa ng Design Questionaire? Itatanong ba nila dito halimbawa:Ano ba dapat Itsura ng Hospital
ganun ba? Well kung ganito hindi lang nag iisa ang sagot dito. Kasi nagbabago na ang itsura ng Hospital eh.
Sana kung sino man maka Experience sa darating na Board Exam dito baka pwede maki Share para maliwanagan
naman kami at sana tama sila.... Thanks sa Furom na ito at list na share natin ang punto ng bawat isa upang
malaman ang mabuti at masamang dulot nito para sa kapwa natin ARKITEKTO. God Bless......

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by kinej on Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:58 pm

share ko lang bilang isang architecture student.


madami sa aming mga student ay tamad nang mag drafting...
kasi may cad na or software na about sa drafting....
pero still how can you learn drafting in cad kung di ka marunong sa manual
drafting....

so ngayong wala na drafting sa board exam... edi mas lalo nang tatamarin mga students...

at tyaka sa experience ko sa work....
usually pinapakita sa sketch ung design before sa 3d presentaion...
and i think pag kausap mo client is sa drafting mo ipapa-intindi sa kanya...
hindi mo naman siguro sasabihin sa client na..."accdg to the multiple choice
this will be the design"

kaya for me...i don't agree with this....

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Muggz on Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:19 am

kinej wrote:share ko lang bilang isang architecture student.


madami sa aming mga student ay tamad nang mag drafting...
kasi may cad na or software na about sa drafting....
pero still how can you learn drafting in cad kung di ka marunong sa manual
drafting....

so ngayong wala na drafting sa board exam... edi mas lalo nang tatamarin mga students...

at tyaka sa experience ko sa work....
usually pinapakita sa sketch ung design before sa 3d presentaion...
and i think pag kausap mo client is sa drafting mo ipapa-intindi sa kanya...
hindi mo naman siguro sasabihin sa client na..."accdg to the multiple choice
this will be the design"

kaya for me...i don't agree with this....


ikaw narin ang sumagot sir,,,"pano nyo maabot ang bayabas kung tinatamad kayo??"
you will not study during the exam,,,you have to study before and after the exam,,,
ill tell you,,,you dont have to be a t-square and triangle exhibitionist to impress a client,,,bakit?mag da-draft ka sa harap nila?
iba din ang drafting sa freehand drawing,,,i believe Smile

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:57 am

Muggz wrote:
kinej wrote:share ko lang bilang isang architecture student.


madami sa aming mga student ay tamad nang mag drafting...
kasi may cad na or software na about sa drafting....
pero still how can you learn drafting in cad kung di ka marunong sa manual
drafting....

so ngayong wala na drafting sa board exam... edi mas lalo nang tatamarin mga students...

at tyaka sa experience ko sa work....
usually pinapakita sa sketch ung design before sa 3d presentaion...
and i think pag kausap mo client is sa drafting mo ipapa-intindi sa kanya...
hindi mo naman siguro sasabihin sa client na..."accdg to the multiple choice
this will be the design"

kaya for me...i don't agree with this....




ikaw narin ang sumagot sir,,,"pano nyo maabot ang bayabas kung tinatamad kayo??"
you will not study during the exam,,,you have to study before and after the exam,,,
ill tell you,,,you dont have to be a t-square and triangle exhibitionist to impress a client,,,bakit?mag da-draft ka sa harap nila?
iba din ang drafting sa freehand drawing,,,i believe Smile


Drafting- using T-square and Triangle or any Sraight Edge and Scaled Drawing
Sketch- Without using T-square and Triangle or any Sraight Edge and Not to Scale Drawing
Freehand- Without using T-square and Triangle or any Sraight Edge but can be scale or not to scale.
Drawing.

Pero sa Board Examination required nila ang Drafting kasi kailangan scaled ang Drawing kaya I use Freehand
kasi naka scale pa rin kaya nakalusot hahahaha. Draw mo muna ang Major Outline tapos finalize mo by Pen
using Freehand tapos sukat mata na ang iba para mabilis matapos.
Kaya magkaiba yang Tatlo tama ka Sir Mugs.


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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:08 am

Goodbye na sa line weight kung wala ng drafting...a good Architect for sure know this line weight. Neutral

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