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Post by cubi_o: on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:43 am

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Payag ba kayo dito?

In my point of view. mas ok pa rin ang mayroon drafting sa design subject.coz in that way, andoon yung heart and soul ng pagsungkit mo ng license. Pero this reformat had been approved. Ang daming issues ang lumabas dito na dapat matalakay.
May mga nag petition na regarding this issue pero still waiting for the final say. Pero since its approved na, nothing much to do with this issue.

Kayo what can you share? Question

Reformat of the LEA Archl Design Subject


The PRC has approved the PRBoA proposal to REFORMAT the Architectural Design and Site Planning Subject (the "Subject"), which comprise forty percent (40%) of the licensure examination for architects (LEA).

The Subject will now be a NON-DRAFTING examination and will also be of the multiple short situational problem, multiple choice format (with sketching and calculations required but not graded). The superseded mode was a single long situational problem format requiring a manually drafted solution.

The future examinees shall be allowed to bring copies ONLY OF Rules VII and VII of the 2004 Revised Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of P.D. No. 1096, otherwise known as the 1977 National Building Code of the Philippines/ NBCP to DAY 2 of the LEA.

These sections could be readily downloaded for free at the Latest Publications section of this website i.e. posted at the following dates:

a) 2008-06-07 Natl Bldg Code IRR Rule VII; and

b) 2008-06-07 Natl Bldg Code IRR Rule VIII.

Examinees may NOT bring NOR use copies of the Foz version of the National Building Code sold at the National Bookstore due to apparently material deficiencies in the text of the said publication.




here's the link: http://architectureboard.ph/news.php?id=63#main
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:08 am

Goodbye na sa line weight kung wala ng drafting...a good Architect for sure know this line weight. Neutral

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by markitekdesign on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:27 am

Dapat design nlng po ang board exam ng architecture hindi written...kng gusto po nla mabilisan mag check..db po...yan ang pgging isng gnap n arkitekto po...hnd puro sulat... peace man peace man peace man sna mguhin nila hngat maaga pa...Design nlng... peace man peace man peace man
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by kurdaps! on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:42 am

markitekdesign wrote:Dapat design nlng po ang board exam ng architecture hindi written...kng gusto po nla mabilisan mag check..db po...yan ang pgging isng gnap n arkitekto po...hnd puro sulat... peace man peace man peace man sna mguhin nila hngat maaga pa...Design nlng... peace man peace man peace man

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by geforce on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:44 am

isa po ako sa mga magtatake this january,mas gusto ko pa rin drawing ung design keysa multiple choice...
sayang nman binayad nung ibang klasmeyt ko na kumuha ng design drafting review sa isang review center sa manila...heheh
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by ArchiNox on Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:46 am

i saw this first sa architectureboard.ph.. Good thing we have it here sa forum to share/know our different reactions. I myself is also dissapointed upon hearing this. para ksing mwawala na ang true essence ng pagiging architects nten pag napaimplement to.. besides, since freshman plang yan na tnuturo sa skul... baka hindi na seryosohin ang design subject nyan.. Neutral


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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by ArchiNox on Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:51 am

arki_vhin wrote:baka sa susunod maisip na nila gawing CAD drafting...hehehe...
pag di maganda resulta ng exam papa revise nanaman nila yan....

OO sir kaso bring your own plotter. Laughing
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Post by hambogegok on Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:42 pm

mahirap kasi may drafting kasi yung mga examiners mismo ang tumitingin at ibaiba rin sila ng gardes pagdating sa isang design...maiksi pa nag oras ng checking...napapagod din mga iyan at naiistress...malas mo kung hapon ka na nacheck at natatae pa yung examiner mo.. di bale sana kung definite answer sa definite question...im sure di mawawala nag drafting sa architecture kasi 1st year pa lang ito na ginagawa ng mga estudyante...ang mahalaga may utak at mata sa mga design..

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:25 pm

hambogegok wrote:mahirap kasi may drafting kasi yung mga examiners mismo ang tumitingin at ibaiba rin sila ng gardes pagdating sa isang design...maiksi pa nag oras ng checking...napapagod din mga iyan at naiistress...malas mo kung hapon ka na nacheck at natatae pa yung examiner mo.. di bale sana kung definite answer sa definite question...im sure di mawawala nag drafting sa architecture kasi 1st year pa lang ito na ginagawa ng mga estudyante...ang mahalaga may utak at mata sa mga design..
tama mahalaga ang utak sa mga tanong at kamay sa design ang mata eh para sa magchecheck.ang pagchecheck ng Board is sorting process,kung required nila 5 sheet unang checheckan eh ung mga naka 5 sheets,logically speaking kung ang kumuha ng exam eh nakagawa lang ng 2 sheets eh for sure wala silang machechekan dun kasi ung problem na binigay is for 5 sheets, that's to give you bro an idea kung paano ngchecheck ang Board,mahirap pero sa mga 20 years of experience ng mga yan eh tingin pa lang nila sa design alam na nila kung nakuha ang solution,for sure eh pasado un sa Board for the design day only ha...di naman Board ngchecheck manually ng Q&A hehehheheheh,machine na un.
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:53 pm

Kung kaya nila dati bakit hindi ngayon? I think mas malaki pa nga binabayaran natin ngayon eh....... Neutral

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by jenaro on Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:03 am

AUSTRIA wrote:Kung kaya nila dati bakit hindi ngayon? I think mas malaki pa nga binabayaran natin ngayon eh....... Neutral
tama bro!kaya nga di ito tungkol sa dami ng chenicheck nila.Alam mo ba kung ano bro tawag sa mga baguhang Architect ng mga katandaan, A B C Architects/"mulitple choice Architect".diba ang sarap pakinggan?!grrrrrrr.......haizzzzz,kung ngayon ganun tawag nila saten what more sa mga bagong bago na walang drafting.tsk tsk tsk....
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by markuz23 on Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:05 am

mas pino-focus nila ung knowledge ng aspiring architects sa familiarity ng buildings laws... pero meron din namang drawing at sketching dun... me extra sheets para sa solutions sa design... base s mga katropa kong kumuha last december dito sa abu dhabi, kelangan mo rin i-drawing ang situation sa design problem... para daw mas masagutan ng ayos... at may extra points din daw un kung maiipe-present mo ung solutions mo kung pano ka naka-arrived sa ganung answer... in some ways, me point din naman... peace Very Happy
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:26 am

markuz23 wrote:mas pino-focus nila ung knowledge ng aspiring architects sa familiarity ng buildings laws... pero meron din namang drawing at sketching dun... me extra sheets para sa solutions sa design... base s mga katropa kong kumuha last december dito sa abu dhabi, kelangan mo rin i-drawing ang situation sa design problem... para daw mas masagutan ng ayos... at may extra points din daw un kung maiipe-present mo ung solutions mo kung pano ka naka-arrived sa ganung answer... in some ways, me point din naman... peace Very Happy

Sana nga Sir kung ganunnoh...Kung may points po ang solutions papaano po kung perfect ka?
BTW thanks for the info. Pero regarding sa familiarity of Building Laws I think mas okey nga
kung may Design di ba kasi dun naa apply mo ang building Codes like Setbacks, Building height and Parkings etc.
Kahit nga Fire code at sa mga Disabled pwede mo apply sa Design natin eh. So I guess its better ang
APPLICATION than Memorization, kabisado mo nga ang building laws pero di mo naman alam i apply sa Design.
I think useless din pero syempre nandito pa rin kami naghihintay ng kasagutan nila para maliwanagan naman kami.
Salamat po ulit sir markuz sa info sana maka share dito yung friend mo para mas maintindihan pa namin. Very Happy

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by bizkong on Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:44 am

share lang ako about dito,
i dont agree na wala nang drafting sa board exam but if this will be implemented now by PRC, siguro dapat i strengthen pa yung foundation natin at yan ay dapat mag umpisa sa Schools, dapat every state colleges/universities/schools thats offering architecture course should strengthen architectural subjects/syllabus lalo na sa mga laboratory subjects ( visual tech,graphics, bldg. tech.design subjects) di naman mawawala siguro yung manual drafting, freehand drawing/sketching sa mga schools eh, dito kasi nakikita ang potential ng isang stude na nangangarap maging arkitekto at habang pataas ng year level ay mas na iimprove pa with the guidance of arki teachers.dapat siguro i screen pa ng mga guro natin ng mabuti yung mga studes kung pwede na sila maka pag patuloy sa prerequisite subjects. na topic na itong wala ng drafting sa board exam ng mag attend ako ng UAP/CODHASP meeting before convention proper (day00) at marami yung nag object na mga guro dito at ngayon ay i implement na pala ng PRC. kung ganito na talaga yung exam dapat lang mas patibayin pa yung foundation ng mga studes. but i still stick to my comment na i dont agree na wala ng drafting thumbsup
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by ARCHITHEKTHURA on Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:58 am

AUSTRIA wrote:
markuz23 wrote:mas pino-focus nila ung knowledge ng aspiring architects sa familiarity ng buildings laws... pero meron din namang drawing at sketching dun... me extra sheets para sa solutions sa design... base s mga katropa kong kumuha last december dito sa abu dhabi, kelangan mo rin i-drawing ang situation sa design problem... para daw mas masagutan ng ayos... at may extra points din daw un kung maiipe-present mo ung solutions mo kung pano ka naka-arrived sa ganung answer... in some ways, me point din naman... peace Very Happy

Sana nga Sir kung ganunnoh...Kung may points po ang solutions papaano po kung perfect ka?
BTW thanks for the info. Pero regarding sa familiarity of Building Laws I think mas okey nga
kung may Design di ba kasi dun naa apply mo ang building Codes like Setbacks, Building height and Parkings etc.
Kahit nga Fire code at sa mga Disabled pwede mo apply sa Design natin eh. So I guess its better ang
APPLICATION than Memorization, kabisado mo nga ang building laws pero di mo naman alam i apply sa Design.
I think useless din pero syempre nandito pa rin kami naghihintay ng kasagutan nila para maliwanagan naman kami.
Salamat po ulit sir markuz sa info sana maka share dito yung friend mo para mas maintindihan pa namin. Very Happy

Familiarity of Building Law?! Oh...i didnt know that we have this in the philippines..Shame on me. Arkitekto na ko lahat lahat e di ko pa alam to.talga nmn!hahahaha. Very Happy
Pardon me guys for being sooo sarcastic but building law???Seryoso sila?Hindi dapat sa mga aspiring architects nila ini implement
yan e.Students knows those laws in school.I myself studied and memorized it well.
First ayusin muna nila mga city hall nila. Mga building officials.Dapat sila pinapa exam ng ganito e.Been practicing before and sad to say sa lahat ng pinuntahan kong city hall e walang matinong building official. The more na may pang lagay ka e the more na may pwede kang i violate na building law. Yan ang Building Code sa Pinas.!Nothing more nothing less.. Sad

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by markuz23 on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:09 am

CGEH SIR austria...invite ko siya dito sa CGP...saka additional lang po... open notes nga pala sila sa exam... ung rule 7 and 8 lang sa building code ung hawak nila... impossible kase makabisado mo lahat ng rules.. at mostly nasa rule 7 at rule 8 po un... eto nga po pala ung sample ng exam nila... http://www.architectureboard.ph/uploads/1262185428-vokpost_FLEAndf.doc
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by markuz23 on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:21 am

ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:
AUSTRIA wrote:
markuz23 wrote:mas pino-focus nila ung knowledge ng aspiring architects sa familiarity ng buildings laws... pero meron din namang drawing at sketching dun... me extra sheets para sa solutions sa design... base s mga katropa kong kumuha last december dito sa abu dhabi, kelangan mo rin i-drawing ang situation sa design problem... para daw mas masagutan ng ayos... at may extra points din daw un kung maiipe-present mo ung solutions mo kung pano ka naka-arrived sa ganung answer... in some ways, me point din naman... peace Very Happy

Sana nga Sir kung ganunnoh...Kung may points po ang solutions papaano po kung perfect ka?
BTW thanks for the info. Pero regarding sa familiarity of Building Laws I think mas okey nga
kung may Design di ba kasi dun naa apply mo ang building Codes like Setbacks, Building height and Parkings etc.
Kahit nga Fire code at sa mga Disabled pwede mo apply sa Design natin eh. So I guess its better ang
APPLICATION than Memorization, kabisado mo nga ang building laws pero di mo naman alam i apply sa Design.
I think useless din pero syempre nandito pa rin kami naghihintay ng kasagutan nila para maliwanagan naman kami.
Salamat po ulit sir markuz sa info sana maka share dito yung friend mo para mas maintindihan pa namin. Very Happy

Familiarity of Building Law?! Oh...i didnt know that we have this in the philippines..Shame on me. Arkitekto na ko lahat lahat e di ko pa alam to.talga nmn!hahahaha. Very Happy
Pardon me guys for being sooo sarcastic but building law???Seryoso sila?Hindi dapat sa mga aspiring architects nila ini implement
yan e.Students knows those laws in school.I myself studied and memorized it well.
First ayusin muna nila mga city hall nila. Mga building officials.Dapat sila pinapa exam ng ganito e.Been practicing before and sad to say sa lahat ng pinuntahan kong city hall e walang matinong building official. The more na may pang lagay ka e the more na may pwede kang i violate na building law. Yan ang Building Code sa Pinas.!Nothing more nothing less.. Sad

nakakalungkot isipin pero yan ang sitwasyon sa pinas ngayon...kung magkakaron lang sana nga architect na presidente... (may mabago kaya?...)
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by AUSTRIA on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:57 am

markuz23 wrote:CGEH SIR austria...invite ko siya dito sa CGP...saka additional lang po... open notes nga pala sila sa exam... ung rule 7 and 8 lang sa building code ung hawak nila... impossible kase makabisado mo lahat ng rules.. at mostly nasa rule 7 at rule 8 po un... eto nga po pala ung sample ng exam nila... http://www.architectureboard.ph/uploads/1262185428-vokpost_FLEAndf.doc

Hahaha!!! sabi ko na walang pinagkaiba to sa BOEA/Professional Practice ganito din ang mga tanong
noon eh thanks Sir nabasa ko na po.
Hindi na talaga nakaka excite di tulad ng dati... a day before pa lang nag iisip ka na kung ano kaya
lalabas na Design Problem bukas? Ah kapag ganito ang lumabas ganito ang Shape ng Plano
at Perspective ko. Well ganun talaga ang buhay sabi nga ni ERAP wheather wheather lang yan
baka ano malay niyo ako naman maupo dun at ibabalik ko ang Design Drafting lol!
Lets pray na lang na sana maganda angresulta nito sa Future Architects natin.

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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by A.K.A. on Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:54 am

makisali ako mga sir at ma'am...
okay na rin naman ang walang drafting ang design at kahit gawin pa etong multiple choice ay hindi mo rin masasabign madali or mawawala ang essence ng exam as an architecture exam...

1. Una, sapat na ang 5 years and two-years na diversified experience para malaman ng mga board members na ang bawat maging elligible to take the exam ay marunong ng basic ng architecture and have enough knowledge kung ano ang architecture.

2. I don't think malalaman mo ang magaling dahil sa drafting. There is a big difference between design and drafting. Dami kong kilala na malupit magdesign pero hindi magaling magdrafting. pero magaling magdrawing hehehe.

3. Ang sabihin na hindi masyadong pinagisipan to is very unfair. I'm sure ang mga tanong kahit multiple choice e hindi ganon kadaling sagutan... kasi kung ganun kadali lang e bakit maraming bumabagsak?

4. What to do yani? Twisted Evil

5. Hindi lahat ng pumasa at nakaranas ng board exam na merong design and drafting ay naging practicing architect. Kaya hayaan nyo na lang at huwag mamaliitin ang exam lalong-lalo na ang mga papasa kasi malay mo maging boss mo pa balang araw ung papasa?
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by Vivisik on Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:58 am

Guys kumusta naman po yung January 2010 ALE exam?...
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Re: REFORMAT of the LEA Archl Design Subject

Post by scyther on Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:39 pm

Ok na rin to kahit wala ng drafting... Anyways, Architects have brilliant mind mapa manual drafting yan or autocad.. Very Happy

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