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mga sir....need ko lang po ang advice nyo nahihirapan kasi ano ang bilhin ko....nalilito po kasi ako....
bibili sana ako ng vga card nah 1gb....san poh mabuti bilhin..
1. geforce nvidia 9500 inno 3d nah 1gb
2. radeon hd saphire...1gb
thank poh...
mga sir....need ko lang po ang advice nyo nahihirapan kasi ano ang bilhin ko....nalilito po kasi ako....
bibili sana ako ng vga card nah 1gb....san poh mabuti bilhin..
1. geforce nvidia 9500 inno 3d nah 1gb
2. radeon hd saphire...1gb
thank poh...

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
@chillrender
yeah, but according to nixsaw, ang pagkaka interpret nya ay hindi compatible ang INTEL motherboard sa ATI RADEON na videocard. nililinaw ko lang. ang benchmark ay hindi dahil sa motherboard <> videocard recommendation. pare pareho lang yan bro. nagkakatalo yan sa iba pang specs na gamit nya.
basta PCI-E ang slot ay pwede yan. walang pinagkaiba sa dati kong motherboard na Maximus Formula, kahit Crossfire-ready sya, wala naman din problema kung single GPU na NVIDIA ang gagamitin ko. hindi naman bumababa ang benchmark at game performance.
yeah, but according to nixsaw, ang pagkaka interpret nya ay hindi compatible ang INTEL motherboard sa ATI RADEON na videocard. nililinaw ko lang. ang benchmark ay hindi dahil sa motherboard <> videocard recommendation. pare pareho lang yan bro. nagkakatalo yan sa iba pang specs na gamit nya.
basta PCI-E ang slot ay pwede yan. walang pinagkaiba sa dati kong motherboard na Maximus Formula, kahit Crossfire-ready sya, wala naman din problema kung single GPU na NVIDIA ang gagamitin ko. hindi naman bumababa ang benchmark at game performance.
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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
necrolyte wrote:@chillrender
yeah, but according to nixsaw, ang pagkaka interpret nya ay hindi compatible ang INTEL motherboard sa ATI RADEON na videocard. nililinaw ko lang. ang benchmark ay hindi dahil sa motherboard <> videocard recommendation. pare pareho lang yan bro. nagkakatalo yan sa iba pang specs na gamit nya.
basta PCI-E ang slot ay pwede yan. walang pinagkaiba sa dati kong motherboard na Maximus Formula, kahit Crossfire-ready sya, wala naman din problema kung single GPU na NVIDIA ang gagamitin ko. hindi naman bumababa ang benchmark at game performance.
Yes Bro basta PCI-E wala talagang problema, para mabinta lng product nila hehehehe, pero in the real thing may kunting deperensya talaga yan, ganyan lng talaga ang Stragery nila sa Market ngayun, tayo lng niloloko nito, hehehe. ang maganda nlng gawin nito is bilihin ang dalawa ATI man o Nvidia din try mo both, kng saan malakas ang Benchmark yun gamitin hehehe yung mahina binta sa iba hehehe. Sabi kasi ng Pinsan ko na naga work sa ATI meron talaga specific nga Vcard sa bawat model ng Motherboard, pero hindi lantaran yung info regarding for that kasi daw may agreement both manufacturer, para mabinta rin ang ibang brand hehehee...


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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
actually, sa PhysX kasi yan nagkakatalo kung NVIDIA at ATI lang pag uusapan, kung ako tatanungin, mas prefer ko pa din ang NVIDIA regardless kung ano ang motherboard brand dahil binili na ng NVIDIA ang karamihan ng games, nagiging bias ang programming na ginamit sa laro para mas maging compatible sa videocard nila.
pareho na kong naka gamit ng ATI at NVIDIA sa iisang motherboard, at hindi din ako bago sa mga specs nila. ang alam kong merong mga compatibility ay ang memory, dahil nilalagay mismo nila yung QVL sa website ng motherboard para malaman mo kung ano yung mas magandang RAM na bilhin mo.
kung sa marketing strategy ang tinutukoy mo, yung pag papalit nila ng mga model na halos magkakasunod lang ang strategy.
hindi nila tayo niloloko, kasi ginagawa nila yun para mabuhay sila sa industry. lol. marami naman tayong option sa pag bili ng videocard eh.
pareho na kong naka gamit ng ATI at NVIDIA sa iisang motherboard, at hindi din ako bago sa mga specs nila. ang alam kong merong mga compatibility ay ang memory, dahil nilalagay mismo nila yung QVL sa website ng motherboard para malaman mo kung ano yung mas magandang RAM na bilhin mo.
kung sa marketing strategy ang tinutukoy mo, yung pag papalit nila ng mga model na halos magkakasunod lang ang strategy.
hindi nila tayo niloloko, kasi ginagawa nila yun para mabuhay sila sa industry. lol. marami naman tayong option sa pag bili ng videocard eh.

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
necrolyte wrote:actually, sa PhysX kasi yan nagkakatalo kung NVIDIA at ATI lang pag uusapan, kung ako tatanungin, mas prefer ko pa din ang NVIDIA regardless kung ano ang motherboard brand dahil binili na ng NVIDIA ang karamihan ng games, nagiging bias ang programming na ginamit sa laro para mas maging compatible sa videocard nila.
pareho na kong naka gamit ng ATI at NVIDIA sa iisang motherboard, at hindi din ako bago sa mga specs nila. ang alam kong merong mga compatibility ay ang memory, dahil nilalagay mismo nila yung QVL sa website ng motherboard para malaman mo kung ano yung mas magandang RAM na bilhin mo.
kung sa marketing strategy ang tinutukoy mo, yung pag papalit nila ng mga model na halos magkakasunod lang ang strategy.
hindi nila tayo niloloko, kasi ginagawa nila yun para mabuhay sila sa industry. lol. marami naman tayong option sa pag bili ng videocard eh.
Lol hehehehehe taga Nvidia cguro ka Bro.. hehehe
oo nga tama yung sinabi mo, gusto lng nila i manipulate lahat hehehe gaya ni Bil Gates, ganyan talaga basta negosyo...
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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
LOL. di ako taga NVIDIA bro, may alam lang ako sa PC. I used to have ATI Radeon 4870 before, wala halos pinagkaiba sa performance ng 8800GT ko pag dating sa games, same graphic settings, malakas naman ang ATI na graphics card, ang sablay lang nila ay yung mga drivers nila. usually, bago nila mastabilize ang version ng driver nila, it will take months bago ma perfect. marami akong kakilala sa TPC na nagkaka problema pa din kahit 5870 na gamit nila sa laro, although overkill na nga yung model na yon, nakaka encounter pa din sila na merong konting tigil tapos bibilis, parang nasinok yung galaw. tapos merong mga instances na nag cracrash daw in a certain scenario dun sa laro.
I'm a hardcore gamer bro kaya alam ko din yang sinasabi mo about performances, I use to do overclocking and benchmarking as well using 3Dmark software. I'm not just saying this because I want to. I'm saying it because I experienced it already.
I'm a hardcore gamer bro kaya alam ko din yang sinasabi mo about performances, I use to do overclocking and benchmarking as well using 3Dmark software. I'm not just saying this because I want to. I'm saying it because I experienced it already.

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
necrolyte wrote:LOL. di ako taga NVIDIA bro, may alam lang ako sa PC. I used to have ATI Radeon 4870 before, wala halos pinagkaiba sa performance ng 8800GT ko pag dating sa games, same graphic settings, malakas naman ang ATI na graphics card, ang sablay lang nila ay yung mga drivers nila. usually, bago nila mastabilize ang version ng driver nila, it will take months bago ma perfect. marami akong kakilala sa TPC na nagkaka problema pa din kahit 5870 na gamit nila sa laro, although overkill na nga yung model na yon, nakaka encounter pa din sila na merong konting tigil tapos bibilis, parang nasinok yung galaw. tapos merong mga instances na nag cracrash daw in a certain scenario dun sa laro.
I'm a hardcore gamer bro kaya alam ko din yang sinasabi mo about performances, I use to do overclocking and benchmarking as well using 3Dmark software. I'm not just saying this because I want to. I'm saying it because I experienced it already.
So nasagot na zildian_nico yung Problem mo, yan ang gusto ko dito maraming Magaling hindi lng sa Frontend pati narin sa Backend hehehehehe,


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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
@chillrender
post ka na lang dito bro ng rig mo.
http://www.cgpinoy.org/techie-corner-f26/show-me-your-rig-t547-255.htm#173144
post ka na lang dito bro ng rig mo.
http://www.cgpinoy.org/techie-corner-f26/show-me-your-rig-t547-255.htm#173144

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
sir for me po mas maganda ang GEFORCE kc po subok na n mostly ito po ang ginagamit sa mga PC lalo na po sa mga 3D games na lumalabas ngayon kc maganda ang graphics nito n madali po hanapin ung drivers nya ......
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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 claims “fastest video card” on the planet
The new Sapphire HD 5970 is based upon ATI HD 5970 chipset & having three fans apiece, is currently claimed as world’s fastest graphic card. It’s 3DMark Vantage Score was an insanely HIGH 22,000.
That’s because they’ve packed it full, with 4GB of DDR3 memory and an overclocked GPU running at 850MHz. Meanwhile the memory is clocked at 1,200MHz.
Ports include two dual-link DVI and a Mini Display Port, along with twin 8-pin power connectors, and the thickness is thanks to a huge heatsink and three supposedly-silent fans but makes it more thicker than any average cards. Also it’s so weird that this beast doesn’t have HDMI display support like 5870 has.
What does AMD say about it? It says people will see it from many variety of different manufactures. But sure it’s silent about the prices. Obviously, It won’t be cheap.
God..! I want an upgrade..!
The new Sapphire HD 5970 is based upon ATI HD 5970 chipset & having three fans apiece, is currently claimed as world’s fastest graphic card. It’s 3DMark Vantage Score was an insanely HIGH 22,000.
That’s because they’ve packed it full, with 4GB of DDR3 memory and an overclocked GPU running at 850MHz. Meanwhile the memory is clocked at 1,200MHz.
Ports include two dual-link DVI and a Mini Display Port, along with twin 8-pin power connectors, and the thickness is thanks to a huge heatsink and three supposedly-silent fans but makes it more thicker than any average cards. Also it’s so weird that this beast doesn’t have HDMI display support like 5870 has.
What does AMD say about it? It says people will see it from many variety of different manufactures. But sure it’s silent about the prices. Obviously, It won’t be cheap.
God..! I want an upgrade..!

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
ATI Radeon HD 5970 – Fastest Graphics Card on the Planet
AMD announced the new ATI Radeon HD 5970 that claimes to be the “fastest graphics card in the world. The 5970 is equipped with dual GPUs with a total of 4.3 billion 40nm transistors and GDDR5 video memory. It uses PCI Express 2.1 x16 interface and supports DirectX 11.
Radeon HD 5970’s engine runs at 725MHz clock speed and it has a memory clock speed at 1GHz. It offers up to 4.64 TeraFLOPS processing power, 1.45 billion polygons/sec polygon throughput, 256.0 GB/sec memory bandwidth and support for ATI CrossFireX.
ATI Radeon HD 5970 includes DXVA 1.0 and 2.0 support. It provides a max resolution of 2560×1600 via Dual Link DVI with HDCP and 1920×1080 via HDMI 1.3.
AMD announced the new ATI Radeon HD 5970 that claimes to be the “fastest graphics card in the world. The 5970 is equipped with dual GPUs with a total of 4.3 billion 40nm transistors and GDDR5 video memory. It uses PCI Express 2.1 x16 interface and supports DirectX 11.
Radeon HD 5970’s engine runs at 725MHz clock speed and it has a memory clock speed at 1GHz. It offers up to 4.64 TeraFLOPS processing power, 1.45 billion polygons/sec polygon throughput, 256.0 GB/sec memory bandwidth and support for ATI CrossFireX.
ATI Radeon HD 5970 includes DXVA 1.0 and 2.0 support. It provides a max resolution of 2560×1600 via Dual Link DVI with HDCP and 1920×1080 via HDMI 1.3.

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
Nice... Kelan kaya ako magkakaroon ng mga PC na ganito? Hehe...

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
necrolyte wrote:LOL. di ako taga NVIDIA bro, may alam lang ako sa PC. I used to have ATI Radeon 4870 before, wala halos pinagkaiba sa performance ng 8800GT ko pag dating sa games, same graphic settings,
Sa statement mong ito sir palagay ko hindi ikaw ang pinaka-qualified magbigay ng advice dito. 8800GT = 4870? Sorry, kalokohan yun... I guess walang pinagkaiba ung 5850 sa GTX 260. Pwede ako magpost dito ng madaming data para i-kontra yung opinyon mo, pero sobrang ridiculous sya di ko na pagaaksayahan ng panahon.
Gusto ko lang sabihin sa mga mahilig magtanong, after getting your answers, try to do your own research. Anandtech, Tech Report, kahit ung Tom's.. google nyo na lang.
edit:
after reading your other posts I realized you're an Nvidia fan, I mean, binebenta mo pa ung Physx feature ng Nv cards. Wala namang mali talaga, pero I'd like to point out to others, na ang biased opinion ay biased opinion.
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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
ahihi to na lang..

above 90% ang improvement from 8800GT to 4870...
i'd say firsthand experience din.. although i came from 8800GTS 320MB to 4870 512MB double ang performance boost.
tungkol naman 5870 skipping, stuttering etc etc.. it may have been drivers or pwede din naman user problem, i had my fair share of problems when i started with 4870 kasi masyado mainit, now with manual fan control i couldn't be any happier for the amount i spent on it.. people need to think or research before complaining..
and implying that nvidia makes the better drivers is one sided, have you guys read this before? last month lang yan
Nvidia Driver..
google is your friend...

above 90% ang improvement from 8800GT to 4870...
i'd say firsthand experience din.. although i came from 8800GTS 320MB to 4870 512MB double ang performance boost.
tungkol naman 5870 skipping, stuttering etc etc.. it may have been drivers or pwede din naman user problem, i had my fair share of problems when i started with 4870 kasi masyado mainit, now with manual fan control i couldn't be any happier for the amount i spent on it.. people need to think or research before complaining..
and implying that nvidia makes the better drivers is one sided, have you guys read this before? last month lang yan
Nvidia Driver..
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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
World's fastest video card officially launched in RP
http://www.techie.com.ph/news/worlds-fastest-video-card-officially-launched-in-rp
Nvidia GeForce GTX 480
No, not that world's fastest GPU, but this world's fastest GPU. The power-supply-frying Nvidia GeForce GTX 480 has been officially brought into the country. And by "official," we mean that importers have already beaten Nvidia Philippines to the punch.
Nvidia's latest GPU has 3 billion transistors crammed inside, beating the Intel Core i7 980ex, the world's fastest desktop CPU, which only has only 1.17 billion. It runs at a clock speed of 1.4GHz with 1.5GB of GDDR5 memory, thus officially beating the previous "world's fastest GPU" titleholder, the ATI Radeon HD 5970, by a country mile.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 470
The next-generation CUDA microarchitecture (aka Fermi) makes the performance bumps possible, according to Glenn Serrano of Nvidia Philippines. Serrano says that with such power, GTX graphics cards are much better in terms of tessellation and ray tracing than its closest competing models from ATI.
Joining Nvidia in its Philippines launch is Inno3D with its GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 graphics cards. Ken Ho, president of Inno3D, showed how their GTX 4 offerings have improved on Nvidia's reference design by adding bigger cooling tubes and a wide array of coolers with their iChill line.
Pricing for Nvidia GeForce GTX 4 series cards vary, according to Serrano, as the price points differ from manufacturer to manufacturer. He did, however, say that GTX 480 cards are selling for about P25,000-P26,000 in stores around Metro Manila while GTX 470 cards are going for about P16,000 to P17,000.
The new cards sip juice to the tune of 250 Watts, so you need a minimum rating of 650 Watts for your power supply, yikes.
Now's the perfect time to******************look for a summer job.
"ATI Radeon HD5870 or HD5970 parang me katapat na"
http://www.techie.com.ph/news/worlds-fastest-video-card-officially-launched-in-rp
Nvidia GeForce GTX 480
No, not that world's fastest GPU, but this world's fastest GPU. The power-supply-frying Nvidia GeForce GTX 480 has been officially brought into the country. And by "official," we mean that importers have already beaten Nvidia Philippines to the punch.
Nvidia's latest GPU has 3 billion transistors crammed inside, beating the Intel Core i7 980ex, the world's fastest desktop CPU, which only has only 1.17 billion. It runs at a clock speed of 1.4GHz with 1.5GB of GDDR5 memory, thus officially beating the previous "world's fastest GPU" titleholder, the ATI Radeon HD 5970, by a country mile.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 470
The next-generation CUDA microarchitecture (aka Fermi) makes the performance bumps possible, according to Glenn Serrano of Nvidia Philippines. Serrano says that with such power, GTX graphics cards are much better in terms of tessellation and ray tracing than its closest competing models from ATI.
Joining Nvidia in its Philippines launch is Inno3D with its GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 graphics cards. Ken Ho, president of Inno3D, showed how their GTX 4 offerings have improved on Nvidia's reference design by adding bigger cooling tubes and a wide array of coolers with their iChill line.
Pricing for Nvidia GeForce GTX 4 series cards vary, according to Serrano, as the price points differ from manufacturer to manufacturer. He did, however, say that GTX 480 cards are selling for about P25,000-P26,000 in stores around Metro Manila while GTX 470 cards are going for about P16,000 to P17,000.
The new cards sip juice to the tune of 250 Watts, so you need a minimum rating of 650 Watts for your power supply, yikes.
Now's the perfect time to******************look for a summer job.
"ATI Radeon HD5870 or HD5970 parang me katapat na"

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http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=5492542
Selling na sila, pero wait ko yung EVGA
Selling na sila, pero wait ko yung EVGA

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Re: VGA RADEON HD OR GEFORCE NVIDIA?
the fastest card to cook eggs on it.. this is a pointless move for an upgrade when we still haven't see a decent pc game poping out anytime this year..
It's almost 6 months since ati's5800 was released and with that time "Fermi" should deliver what we expected them to be.. but for a substantial improvement of what (5~8%??) doesn't seem so nice if we based their technical paper specification and the way they're milking their fan boys with rehashed product from time to time, aside you need to prepare a bigger PSU to juice this card, you have to dish out 26k for a card that runs hot even on idle mode, is really a no brainer in my opinion.. what a better move is buying an aircon this summer for the kids.
and btw. PhysX is only good for Batman: AA, no more other games for that bragging rights.. only one decent game and thats it.
yes, Nvidia's "the way meant to be played" campaign really show now.. this is what i call epic..
fail
It's almost 6 months since ati's5800 was released and with that time "Fermi" should deliver what we expected them to be.. but for a substantial improvement of what (5~8%??) doesn't seem so nice if we based their technical paper specification and the way they're milking their fan boys with rehashed product from time to time, aside you need to prepare a bigger PSU to juice this card, you have to dish out 26k for a card that runs hot even on idle mode, is really a no brainer in my opinion.. what a better move is buying an aircon this summer for the kids.
and btw. PhysX is only good for Batman: AA, no more other games for that bragging rights.. only one decent game and thats it.
yes, Nvidia's "the way meant to be played" campaign really show now.. this is what i call epic..
fail
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