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10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by kurdaps! on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:40 pm

First topic message reminder :

posted by redbyte from CGTALK

I've been a member of these forums for several years now and I
regularly check out the 3d stills gallery for inspiration. I recently
realised that a lot of artwork is suffering from some very basic
mistakes that are stopping it from being excellent. So I decided to
address these mistakes in article titled:

10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

I'm sure I'm only scraping the surface here, so I thought I'd ask the
community, what are the key problems you see time and time again in 3d
art?

Here we go...

1. There’s no point It doesn’t tell a story, it’s not
advertising anything and it’s certainly not pretty. What exactly is the
viewer getting from this? Nothing makes me close the window faster than
a piece of art with no clear objective.

2. You use pre-made content Stock models are great for studios
who want to save time and money by purchasing a pre-made model. But it
has absolutely no place in your portfolio. Personally I find no pride
in showing someone a render that I haven’t created entirely by myself,
but that’s just me. If you don’t know how to model it, why not learn?

3. You’re copying something far more successful I love Wall-E as
much as the next guy, but that doesn’t mean I try to mimic what a
professional studio has slaved over for years on end. Why? Because
unless it’s an uncanny comparison (which it won’t be) viewers will only
spot it’s flaws.

4. You didn’t plan it on paper first It’s easy to tell when an
artist failed to put their idea on paper first: it’s a confusing mess.
They started with an idea, skipped the planning stage and jumped
straight to their 3d program. Most artists cannot model/texture/render
in 3d at the same speed as their imagination. The best thing you can do
is put it on paper as soon as the idea strikes you, that way you have a
reference in 2 weeks time when you’re sitting at your computer and
asking, “what was I making again?”.

5. It’s cliche If I see another cave troll or big breasted
warrior I’m going to puke. Be original and create something that
everyone hasn’t already seen a thousand times.

6. It’s a test render Hey cool, you just got your head around
the new array modifier! Don’t post it on the net. Test renders are
exactly that. Tests. They are a learning experience that should remain
on your hard drive.

7. It’s poorly lit Let me say this once and for all: Dark is not
moody. If you want to create a moody atmosphere there are plenty of
ways of doing it, but making your scene dimly lit is not one of them.
Pick up a copy of Jeremy Birn’s Digital Lighting and Rendering to learn
how to light your scene like a pro.

8. You don’t realise it sucks No one likes receiving bad
feedback on their artwork, especially after you’ve spent weeks creating
it, but to tell the hundreds of posters that they “just don’t
understand it” is like throwing salt on the wound. If you want to
progress as an artist you need to be able to take critiques on-board
and learn from your mistakes.

9. It’s boring architecture Archiviz is great skill to have
under your belt. There’s a lot of work available and it pays quite
well, but that doesn’t mean it has to be boring and emotionless. Read
my post on 10 Architectural renders that break the mold or watch Alex Roman’s amazing short The Third and the Seventh and you’ll pick up dozens of ways to make still architecture interesting.

10. It’s overly post-processed There’s nothing wrong with fixing
the colour levels or altering the contrast in Photoshop, but when you
start adding filters and chromatic aberration to hide your own
incompetencies there’s a problem.




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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by bokkins on Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:59 pm

galing nito bro. thanks for sharing! this is very real. some old habits are really hard to break. I'm gonna save this! Smile

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by fpj999 on Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:37 pm

nays!
tinamaan ako a ^^...pero ok to daming mapupulot na aral buttrock

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by scorpion21 on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:05 pm

thanks for sharing kurdaps!...

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by cloud20 on Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:57 am

I'm gonna have to say: very nice indeed... Thanks master daps...

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by manex on Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:05 am

thanks for sharing sir..oks na oks to.... Smile

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by enigma on Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:37 am

be guided by these points mentioned in this article plus thousands of test renders and hundreds of hours of practice...every output will come out a piece of art!

Thanks for sharing kuya sherwin!


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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by Vivisik on Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:24 pm

very well said, master kurdaps!

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by zdesign on Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:33 pm

galing ng sharing po,nakakabuhay lalo tuloy gaganahan ang iba.salamat po...

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by 3DZONE on Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:09 pm

Very inspiring article and giving us a boost to make better & greater.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by Muggz on Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:28 pm

nakaka relate...tsk Idea

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by v_wrangler on Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:10 am

If you all just read the forums thoroughly you won't need to be surprised like its the first time you're hearing, "Hey, your render sucks bigtime!"

My only take in what the author said about test renders - I do not think test renders are bad or one should hide them, instead I would advise everyone to take the courage and show them around. Ask what others think of them and you will be surprised to find out that some critics do make sense to show you what you might have missed or have refused to see.

To make better renders, accept the fact that sooner or later somebody better than you will come - do not take this as an offense, the life of a cg artist is like a competition, there will be losers there will be winners. If you find yourself at the bottom of the spectrum - don't hate the winners, befriend them. Who knows he or she might take you into their clout and teach you a thing or to.

Its ok to render images that suck - for the meantime. Accept the criticisms. Humans learn by experience. Savor the flavor of the hurt. You don't like them ever happening, right? So aspire for the best and do better the next time.

If you receive comments whether its good or bad, be thankful - you're getting the attention for free right? Mas masaklap kapag alang pumansin sa yo. Pasalamat ka pinagtuunan ka ng pansin. Hindi ba. If the critic doesn't care for you - they'd rather spend their time somewhere else. Don't defend your obra like it's your one mighty ego. If you do that and assume a defensive stance, probabilities are you won't get any more comments. Specially if its me.

Sayonara.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by celes on Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:43 am

Ika nga ni idol Bruce Lee -

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.

Ibig sabihon - always be open to new ideas. CG is always evolving. So must the artist always evolve.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by jorgei2style on Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:05 am

Lesson: Take it as a "Constructive criticism"
This only means CGP has gone far beyond an ordinary CG site...
This is where the "newbies and experts" meet to present and be criticize , more and more young Filipino designers are clinging to this site seeking for more knowledge which they had not learn in their schools and the CGPians number keeps on growing.
Kakaiba kasi ang CGP may Tatak Pinoy!
panalo

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by arjun_samar on Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:16 am

A blacksmisth once said in an anime, even a broken and rusted sword is very deadly in the hands of a master of his heart.
Don't just use your sword, be the sword.

Don't just use the rendering engine to render, be renderer.

ika nga ng blacksmisth na to. hindi nasa anung ginagamit mo, eto ay nasa gumagamit.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by nomeradona on Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:04 am

I read this at the blenderartist.org forum. If you read the remarks there were actually sreams of indignant replies about the writer's 'elitist' attitude. Like for example the test renders of lkeeping them on your hardrive and no t suppose to post them. in the end ang original writer ay nagpost nga na maybe maybe he was a little harsh, and nag- apologize.

ang punto ko kung madidiscourage ang sinuman na magpresent with any level, paano rin sila matututo. i mean kahit na test render pa sya as vertex rightly said. para sa akin kasi yung pagpopost ay isang paraan talaga para magaccept ng comments and criticism. so dapat talaga ay maging balanse kung paano tignan ang puntong ito. pero sa ibang banda halos naman ang sinabi ng author ay valid at tutuo , pero palagay ko meron ding wala sa patulo. so have a balance outlook.

i also feel that the author leaning about good rendering presentationare all about realistic rendering ang presentation. What if you opt the to do different thing? like for example sketchup presentation. would it be invalid? yung lang ba talagang acceptable na good render ay yung pure realistic presentation and renders? mmm. if then para bagang the same context as the "Saloon Entries". Thank God at may mga Monet at iba pa na nagoppose. kung wala Impressionism won't be developed.

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Re: 10 Reasons Why Your Render Sucks

Post by Kayeen on Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:06 am

wow..dami kong natutunan.. thanks! thumbsup

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