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Post by em_t on Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:23 pm

Good day sa lahat ng mga Filipino Expats na and2 ngayun sa UAE.

Just need help ASAP kaya napa post po ako sa cgpinoy.M currently residing in the
Philippines and got an employer in Sharjah,UAE an arch'l company.Direct hire po ako
and they issued me na a PERMANENT RESIDENCE VISA.Ang gusto ko po sana na
maipapadala po nila are the original copy of my Visa and my Working permit for
Phil.immigration purposes.Unfortunately,Visa lang ang maipapadala nila kac ang Working
permit i should be there (UAE) personally for my medical exam daw and it will take 14
days pa to process the working permit and they need me ASAP na.

Ang tanong ko lang po.If my PERMANENT RESIDENCE VISA na is on my possession pwede
ko po bang sabihin sa immigration na ang purpose ko sa UAE eh mi trabaho ng naghihintay
sa akin? bale ang dala ko lang to exit phils.and to present sa immigration are my Visa,passport,
NBI and a valid id?

And pwede bang sa UAE nalang ako mismo mag apply ng clearance from POEA?ang tagal pa
palang e-process d2 (phils.) it will take a month and ang dami pang babayaran.

And kailangan ba sa immigration ang exit clearance na yan from POEA?

Hope mi sumagot na mi background na kapareho sa situation ko para maliwanagan po.

Salamat po ng marami mga kabayang expats!

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by bokkins on Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:28 pm

This sounds good already. Lucky you. I think POEA can answer all your questions since dun talaga sa kanila nangyayari ang lahat ng legalities. What you can get from our friends here are personal experiences which may or may not help since these terms are ever changing or improving in time. Good luck!
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:51 pm

base sa experience ko lang po ito bossing ah.., ganito po ang sitwasyon, if tatanungin mo ang immigration ang sasabihin lang sayo ng mga yun eh. dapat kumuha ka ng clearance sa OWWA clearance which is dadaan ka pa sa seminar at kung anu2x pa. base lang po yun sa nangyari na tinanung ko yung immigration officer dto sa sg., pero siempre ask mo sila din tru phone dyan sa pinas regarding sa ganitong sitwasyon para safe pa din ang identity mo., pero madalas para wala ng hassle hinde na muna dinedeklare na may job offer ka na dito sa abroad., kasi pag nasa abroad ka na madali na lang ayusin lahat yang Owwa clearance na yan sa embassy in designated country na pupuntahan mo., hirap din kasi ang ganyan sitwasyon, isipin mo gagastos ka sa clearance at etc. tapos pag ok ka na nasa dubai ka na at bumagsAK ka sa medical eh panu yung ginastos mo, hinde naman ibabalik ng immigration yun. so wala ubos ka lalo., my suggestion nga call ka muna tru phone mo sila tanungin.. if madali lang at di gaano kalaki ang gagastusin mo and you can finish it in 1-2 days.. go in legal way pero kung medyo complicated, it's up to you na. oppurtunity na yan eh.. pakakawalan mo pa ba? thumbsup
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by silvercrown on Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:26 pm

Kung may Permanent residence Visa ka na, di na kailangan ang "work permit" kase considered na "immigrant" ka na ng bansang pupuntahan mo. Kelangan mo lang ng pre-departure seminar sa DFA. Kase kung Permanent Resident ang status mo, you have the right to live, work & study in that country. (por eso di na kailangan ng work permit)
I assume na yung passport mo ay may tatak na (or meron sticker) na "Permanent Resident Visa" galing sa embassy ng bansang pupuntahan mo... I assume din na pinadala mo yang passport mo dun sa kanila para ma process nila ang Visa mo, at ibabalik nila sa yo na may tatak ng "Visa"... di yata pwedeng letter lang yung visa... dapat nakatatak yan sa passport mo (Clarify mo nlng eto check mo rin baka kelangan mo rin ng show money)
So kung ok ang lahat, makipag-ugnayan ka nlng sa pinakamalapit na opisina ng DFA...

Happy Trip at Goodluck! Very Happy

Yung sinasabi naman ni natski, nangyayari yan kung di ka pa "permanent resident". usually direct hire din sila kaso yung papel nila pina-process na dun sa country na pupuntahan nila. so ang nangyayari, lumalabas sila ng pinas on a "tourist visa" so dapat prepare ka ng show money, dapat din you should look convincing din na turista ka talaga, specially dun sa immigration ng country na pupuntahan mo... (may nadede-port nyan kase walang show money, at di mukhang turista)
Pag nakapasok ka na, yung company na usually ang nagtsi-change na status mo into "working visa" or "PR" at makipag-ugnayan ka na rin sa POEA at OWWA para makakuha ka ng benipisyo mo bilang OFW...
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by 3DZONE on Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:04 pm

Considered as Migrant Workers ka na, Permanent Visa is your key to in and out in here in UAE, kailangan lang talaga na nandito ka na for processing ng visa stamps sa passport mo at medical. Hindi ka na tatanungin ng Immigration sa atin sa Pinas kasi "For Employment" na yung Visa na ibibigay sa yo ng employer mo. Dont worry OK yung procedure na binigay sa yo, kailangan lang muna na nasa UAE ka. About sa clearance or POEA etc.,dito na lang sa UAE mo na rin yan aasukasuhin.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:39 am

my gratitude sa lahat ng mga sagot nyu po.At naliwanagan ako.

La na po palang tanungan sa immigration pag dala ko yung PERMANENT RESIDENCE VISA ko?
Di ko po pinadala ang passport ko for my own safety,photocopy lang naman ang hinahanap nila to process my permanent residence visa.Pinakita na sa kin thru scanned jpeg ang Visa.Ang sa akin eh,ipapadala nila sa akin ang original copy for immigration purposes nga.
Sa DFA lang po pala ako makipag ugnayan for my pre-departure seminar.
At hindi na po pala hahanapin sa immigration ang clearance ng OWWA or POEA.Yun nga po sana ang plano ko,na sa UAE nalang aasikasuhin kasi ang tagal pa ng processing sa clearance it takes month pa po at ang dami pang babayaran.And they need me na ASAP sa UAE.

Hope to hear more pa po from all Filipino Expats.
Salamat po sa pagsagot.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by cubi_o: on Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:57 am

hi,
if you had your permanent visa, they dont have to ask you anything.
pero makakuha ka lng ng PERMANENT VISA after you entered UAE.
kase ang PERMANENT RESIDENCE VISA at WORKING VISA ay magkaiba.

Bsta bring with you the original documents para wala na masyadong tanong
pagdating sa Immigration.

Note:
(Beware ka lng sa mga malakas mang hingi dyan sa atin. Kahit na kompleto ka na sa papers hahanap at hahanap cla ng butas para makahingi. Base from experience lng naman).
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by 3DZONE on Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:08 am

cubi_o: wrote:

Note:
(Beware ka lng sa mga malakas mang hingi dyan sa atin. Kahit na kompleto ka na sa papers hahanap at hahanap cla ng butas para makahingi. Base from experience lng naman).

agree ako dito....biktima ako nito e...kala nila first time ko palang aalis...inipit ako sa imigration sa tin ng 2 oras...pinakawalan lang nung 30 mins before my flight...tsk tsk...kunwari concern pero mangingikil lang pala...hayyy...nakuuu...

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by silvercrown on Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:16 am

Tama c cubi_o
Ang visa talaga bro dapat naka-stamp yan sa passport mo... well kasama na rin dyan yung letter of approval, certificate, at yung passport mo na may stamp ng visa...

Nalito nga ako at baket ka nabigyan ng visa e, di mo naman pinadala yung passport mo...
Anyway, yung original copy ng visa na ipapadala sa yo (cguro letter of approval ng visa mo eto), dalhin mo yun sa DFA, para magabayan ka nila kung anu pa dapat mong gawin... kase kung enough na yang papel na yan, pre-departure seminar lang kelangan mo, pag na stampahan na rin yan ng DFA yung passport mo, ready to fly ka na...
Or pwede rin dalhin mo yun sa embassy ng UAE dyan sa manila, hingi ka ng advice...

yung POEA at OWWA kelangan lang yan kung lalabas ka ng country on a "working Visa" yan yung pinaka-requirement nyan.
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by cubi_o: on Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:28 am

same as well here sir aries.
iniipit din nila ako at kung ano anong pananakot pinagsasabi.
kung d ko sinabi na kakilala ko ang Head officer nila.
malamang magtagal pa ako doon.

(pero sa totoo hindi ko naman talaga kilala. Nabasa ko lng sa directory nila yun.hehehe.)

btt

Bsta just bring all your original documents. Wink

Goodluck po. wish you all the best. Very Happy
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by warren68 on Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:47 am

Sir comment lang ako, Ang alam ko hindi ka pdeng ma-issuhan ng Permanent Residence Visa dito sa Dubai hanggat di kpa nakakapasa sa Medical examination dito. Ang Residence Visa ay yun ididikit nila sa passport mo kapag na process na lahat ng documents mo dito. So ang na i-issue lang ng employer mo kung sakaling na hire ka dito sa Dubai...eh either Visit visa o yun employment na tinatawag pero hindi pa ito Permanent residence Visa.

Base sa experience ko dito for my 5 years in Dubai, mas maganda visit visa kse di kna dadaan sa POEA ntin, twice akong naka entry dyan na dala ko lang visit visa, magaling klang magdahilan sa immigration officer natin para di ka madelay. But itong 3rd company ko ngayon and present employer ko, Employment Visa ang in-issue sakin dahil exit ako nun sa pinas, so by courier padala nila ang original na Employment visa, after nun kailangan mo dumaan sa almost two weeks na proseso sa POEA as DIRECT HIRE, need mong ipasa medical exams at you have to undergo PDOS seminar kse after nun dun klang mabibigyan ng OEC na kukunin sayo isang copy bago ka makalabas ng Philippine Immigration.....heeww sana nakatulong ako.
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:46 pm

silvercrown wrote:Yung sinasabi naman ni natski, nangyayari yan kung di ka pa "permanent resident". usually direct hire din sila kaso yung papel nila pina-process na dun sa country na pupuntahan nila. so ang nangyayari, lumalabas sila ng pinas on a "tourist visa" so dapat prepare ka ng show money, dapat din you should look convincing din na turista ka talaga, specially dun sa immigration ng country na pupuntahan mo... (may nadede-port nyan kase walang show money, at di mukhang turista)
Pag nakapasok ka na, yung company na usually ang nagtsi-change na status mo into "working visa" or "PR" at makipag-ugnayan ka na rin sa POEA at OWWA para makakuha ka ng benipisyo mo bilang OFW...

naku sir.. sana nga ganyan kadali ang pakikipag-usap sa mga Immigration officer sa bansa natin... alam mo naman sa bansa natin.. akala ng mga IO na yan eh kamukha natin lahat si jose rizal sa piso.. lalo na kung alam nila na may job offer ka na.. at actually hinde pa po ata officially permanent resident si sir em t, kaya medyo complicated pa din ang sitwasyon nya.. baka kung anu2x pa ipagawa sayo ng IO satin,, eh kung mag-visit visa ka na lang umalis mas ok pa ang mahalaga naman eh maka-exit ka lang ng pinas kasi pag-dating mo sa UAE wla na naman problem yang papers mo eh at pag-naayos na lahat ang mga papeles mo as Permanent resident madali na lang ayusin ang OWWA.. or clearance na yan.. actuaally kami na permanent residence dito sa SG di na kami kumukuha ng clearance sa OWWA eh.. or POEA. wala naman silbi at di kami hinaharang sa Airport, kasi permanent resident na kami dito sa SG di ko lang alam sa Dubai pero dapat ganun din...
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by ortzak on Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:58 pm

in my experience nagmamadali ang employer...
pina-courier ang visit visa...
dami kasi pinaayos sa pinas e..

...pagdating dito, medical then labor card then residence visa na...kaso pinag exit ako sa qatar(eto pinili ko para sosi hehe) then pag balik ko ayun pinakita ko na working visa then dito ka na din pinayos sa poea lahat..no hassle...
hassle lang ang 3 hrs nakatambay sa qatar airport hehe...

hope it helps 2thumbsup
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by silvercrown on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:09 am

natski08 wrote:
naku sir.. sana nga ganyan kadali ang pakikipag-usap sa mga Immigration officer sa bansa natin... alam mo naman sa bansa natin.. akala ng mga IO na yan eh kamukha natin lahat si jose rizal sa piso.. lalo na kung alam nila na may job offer ka na.. at actually hinde pa po ata officially permanent resident si sir em t, kaya medyo complicated pa din ang sitwasyon nya.. baka kung anu2x pa ipagawa sayo ng IO satin,, eh kung mag-visit visa ka na lang umalis mas ok pa ang mahalaga naman eh maka-exit ka lang ng pinas kasi pag-dating mo sa UAE wla na naman problem yang papers mo eh at pag-naayos na lahat ang mga papeles mo as Permanent resident madali na lang ayusin ang OWWA.. or clearance na yan.. actuaally kami na permanent residence dito sa SG di na kami kumukuha ng clearance sa OWWA eh.. or POEA. wala naman silbi at di kami hinaharang sa Airport, kasi permanent resident na kami dito sa SG di ko lang alam sa Dubai pero dapat ganun din...
Yea, mukhang di pa nga PR c sir em t, and sir warren68 made a good explanation on that.
To add, if your application for PR or immigrant is approved while nasa Pinas, dapat makipag-ugnayan ka lang sa DFA (ibang department ang DFA sa Immigration, mas kurap ang immigration kesa sa DFA Twisted Evil ), they will require you to pass some documents, attend a seminar, and they will stamp your passport to show that you've completed necessary documentation... ginagawa eto days or weeks prior to your departure... di ka pwedeng umalis ng walang stamp yung passport ng DFA or else haharangin ka pagpasok sa immigration at di ka makaalis...
Another situation naman. kunyari nasa SG or UAE kana at dun ka na nag-apply at na-approve yung PR or immigrant application mo, sa Phil embassy nlng punta mo, andun na rin kase lahat na kakailanganin para sa documentation mo...
If you're leaving the country on "tourist or visit" visa, walang gaanong requirements eto, prepare money for terminal fee and a liitle bit of show money (kung kinakailangan)... At kung dadaan ka na sa Immigration satin, Hwag mong sasabihin na magwo-work ka dun sa destination mo! wag mo ipakita work offers at kung anu-anu pang papel that pertains to working sa destination mo, sabihin mo lang turista ka at gusto mong bisitahin friend mo, mag-relax, enjoy the sights and sounds ng place, etc... thats it! kase kung sasabihin mong mag-wowork ka dun laking problema yan, tourist/visit yung visa mo tapos mag-work ka pala dun... baka di ka pa paalisin...
Kung OFW ka, kahit PR ka pa (except kung naturalized citizen), magpa-register ka na rin sa POEA at OWWA... bro natski, HINDI totoong walang silbi yang mga yan, maraming benepisyo nakalaan para sayo, educate yourself about this, basa ng flyers, brochures, website about this... sayang yung mga yun kung di mui-avail, nanakawin lang ng taga gobyerno pundo nyan kung walang mag-avail Twisted Evil .... Isa sa mga napakaraming benepisyo e libre ata medical at dental pag-uwi mo satin kasama na rin ang mga miyembro ng pamilya... At kung may masamang mangyari sayo, maraming tulong pwedeng ibigay ng POEA at OWWA sayo at sa pamilya mo, e kung wala ka neto? Sayang din...
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:00 pm

Maraming salamat sa lahat ng mga sumagot.

Typographical mistake pinatingnan ko sa immigration dito sa location ko.Actually taga mindanao po ako eh.Yung visa ko is EMPLOYMENT VISA.Ang sabi ng taga immigration dito (Butuan City), ok na daw kung ang EMPLOYMENT VISA,passport, NBI at valid IDs ang ipapakita sa taga IO hindi ka na raw haharangin.Pero in doubt pa rin ako eh.Kaya humingi ako ng mga payo sa inyo, lalo na sa mga expats na.

Follow-up lang po na tanong.Yung OEC po ba require po ba talaga yan na kumuha para di ka maharang sa immigration? ang balak ko po sa CEBU international airport ako mag origin to UAE.And pwede bang yang OEC eh sa UAE ko na aayusin? ang tagal kasi ng proseso, it will take a month. Ok naman ako sa POEA at OWWA na yan kasi nakakatulong in behalf of our part.Pero they (employer ) need me ASAP na eh.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:04 pm

Kung EMPLOYMENT VISA na po ba ang hawak ko...pwede ko po bang sasabihin na mi employer na naghihintay sa akin sa UAE kahit wala akong WORKING PERMIT na maipapakita? Just want to make sure kasi i'm in a situation of a doubt.

Salamat po.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by silvercrown on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:29 pm

Kung Employment Visa yan, kelangan mo dumaan ng POEA at OWWA... pwede mo rin yata gawin yan sa cebu, mas madali at mabilis ata dun...
Yung Employment Visa mo, yan na ang pinaka-work permit mo, so yan din ang main reason mo sa IO kung baket ka aalis ng bansa, basta prepare mo lang lahat docs na kakailnganin mo... lalo na yung POEA at OWWA dapat meron ka nyan bago ka umalis, pero later on kung magrenew ka, pwede mo na dun i-renew sa Phil Embassy sa UAE.
Mas mabuti na rin cguro sa cebu ka dumaan, walang masyadong buaya dun sa immigration... Twisted Evil
Gudluck sayo!
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:38 pm

Except for Permamnent Residents of any foreign country, anyone going out of the Philippines, whether you are a direct hire or otherwise - will have to secure the OEC from the POEA. You would have to attend a Pre-departure Orientation, take a health check up and would have to pay membership to OWWA.

If you are leaving the country with the intention of working (Working Visa) and you do not have the OEC (exit clearance), you will be stopped by the immigration officer from boarding your plane.

Some people will go on another country in disguise of a tour and enter the final working destination through this territory in order to avoid the hassles of the law.
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:55 pm

Salamat po sa mga clarification.

Kung mi OEC di na po haharangin ng IM kahit sasabihin mong mi employer kana sa UAE na naghihintay? hmmmm ang tagal kasi ng processing ng EOC na yan.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:23 pm

basta may OEC - wala kang problema. Without it - you will be stopped by the Immigration officer from leaving the country,
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:36 pm

Salamat po v_wrangler.

So OEC is a must po pala talaga sa Philippine Immigration.It will take a month pa po kasi to secure OEC and they (company ) need me ASAP na.
Mi nag advice po d2...pwede daw po sa UAE ko na lang e-process yan.Baka sa renewal cguro. I will take your advice Sir.Salamat po ng marami.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:38 pm

sir em t eto po ang ibig sabihin ng OEC

Overseas Employment Certificate

What is an OEC?

An overseas employment certificate (OEC), is a requirement under POEA Rules and Regulaitons to help ensure that Filipino overseas workers (OFWs) are properly documented and protected.

Only OFWs are required to get an OEC. In this case, OFWs would include: work permit holders such as domestic helpers, etc. as well as S-pass and E-pass holders. PRs, EPEC holders and OJTs are not required to get OECs.

Used OEC, whether regular or multiple, is a requirement to be submitted to the Department of Tourism to avail travel tax reduction for OFW dependents.

so dapat may contract ka na or work pass bgo ka kumuha nito.. kaya sa tingin ko di ka puede dito.. OWWA clearance lang ang kailanagn mo kunin para maka-exit ka ng pinas.. pero dadaan ka pa sa mga etc. na seminar or training.. laking abala nyan..

sir.. silvercrown oo nga may silbi din.. if may mangyari sayo at least insured ka ng government sa pinas... pero yung dental at medical di ko pa ata nabasa yan.. may patunay ka ba sir.. para malaman naman ng ibang OFW na kasama natin dito at magamit yang benefits na yan..
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:47 pm

Professional po ang trabaho ko sa UAE.

Akala ko OEC is Overseas Exit Clearance yan? in doubt na tuloy ako.Sa OWWA naman ngayun?

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:51 pm

em_t wrote:Professional po ang trabaho ko sa UAE.
Akala ko OEC is Overseas Exit Clearance yan? in doubt na tuloy ako.Sa OWWA naman ngayun?

oo sir.. professional yan.. basahin mo maigi.. professional lahat ang pinag-uusapan dito.. pero OFW ka pa din.. mapa-domestic helper or kagaya mo na professional..

eto.. Only OFWs are required to get an OEC. In this case, OFWs would include: work permit holders such as domestic helpers, etc. as well as S-pass and E-pass holders. PRs, EPEC holders and OJTs are not required to get OECs

tru Philippine embassy website ko po yan kinuha ang meaning..
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Post by em_t on Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:53 pm

Mi naka pagsabi din sa kin.Sa OWWA nga lang daw ang punta ko...doon sa NAIA or international airport na mi OWWA office and magbabayad ka lang ng 3,000.00 and it takes 1 to 2 hrs.lang daw kuha mo na ang OEC mo.Pag mi OEC ka na di na ako magbabayad ng terminal fee.

Yung POEA security measures nga lang ng OFW yan.

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