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Post by em_t on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:23 am

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Good day sa lahat ng mga Filipino Expats na and2 ngayun sa UAE.

Just need help ASAP kaya napa post po ako sa cgpinoy.M currently residing in the
Philippines and got an employer in Sharjah,UAE an arch'l company.Direct hire po ako
and they issued me na a PERMANENT RESIDENCE VISA.Ang gusto ko po sana na
maipapadala po nila are the original copy of my Visa and my Working permit for
Phil.immigration purposes.Unfortunately,Visa lang ang maipapadala nila kac ang Working
permit i should be there (UAE) personally for my medical exam daw and it will take 14
days pa to process the working permit and they need me ASAP na.

Ang tanong ko lang po.If my PERMANENT RESIDENCE VISA na is on my possession pwede
ko po bang sabihin sa immigration na ang purpose ko sa UAE eh mi trabaho ng naghihintay
sa akin? bale ang dala ko lang to exit phils.and to present sa immigration are my Visa,passport,
NBI and a valid id?

And pwede bang sa UAE nalang ako mismo mag apply ng clearance from POEA?ang tagal pa
palang e-process d2 (phils.) it will take a month and ang dami pang babayaran.

And kailangan ba sa immigration ang exit clearance na yan from POEA?

Hope mi sumagot na mi background na kapareho sa situation ko para maliwanagan po.

Salamat po ng marami mga kabayang expats!

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:00 am

Maraming salamat sa lahat ng mga sumagot.

Typographical mistake pinatingnan ko sa immigration dito sa location ko.Actually taga mindanao po ako eh.Yung visa ko is EMPLOYMENT VISA.Ang sabi ng taga immigration dito (Butuan City), ok na daw kung ang EMPLOYMENT VISA,passport, NBI at valid IDs ang ipapakita sa taga IO hindi ka na raw haharangin.Pero in doubt pa rin ako eh.Kaya humingi ako ng mga payo sa inyo, lalo na sa mga expats na.

Follow-up lang po na tanong.Yung OEC po ba require po ba talaga yan na kumuha para di ka maharang sa immigration? ang balak ko po sa CEBU international airport ako mag origin to UAE.And pwede bang yang OEC eh sa UAE ko na aayusin? ang tagal kasi ng proseso, it will take a month. Ok naman ako sa POEA at OWWA na yan kasi nakakatulong in behalf of our part.Pero they (employer ) need me ASAP na eh.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:04 am

Kung EMPLOYMENT VISA na po ba ang hawak ko...pwede ko po bang sasabihin na mi employer na naghihintay sa akin sa UAE kahit wala akong WORKING PERMIT na maipapakita? Just want to make sure kasi i'm in a situation of a doubt.

Salamat po.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by silvercrown on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:29 am

Kung Employment Visa yan, kelangan mo dumaan ng POEA at OWWA... pwede mo rin yata gawin yan sa cebu, mas madali at mabilis ata dun...
Yung Employment Visa mo, yan na ang pinaka-work permit mo, so yan din ang main reason mo sa IO kung baket ka aalis ng bansa, basta prepare mo lang lahat docs na kakailnganin mo... lalo na yung POEA at OWWA dapat meron ka nyan bago ka umalis, pero later on kung magrenew ka, pwede mo na dun i-renew sa Phil Embassy sa UAE.
Mas mabuti na rin cguro sa cebu ka dumaan, walang masyadong buaya dun sa immigration... Twisted Evil
Gudluck sayo!

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:38 am

Except for Permamnent Residents of any foreign country, anyone going out of the Philippines, whether you are a direct hire or otherwise - will have to secure the OEC from the POEA. You would have to attend a Pre-departure Orientation, take a health check up and would have to pay membership to OWWA.

If you are leaving the country with the intention of working (Working Visa) and you do not have the OEC (exit clearance), you will be stopped by the immigration officer from boarding your plane.

Some people will go on another country in disguise of a tour and enter the final working destination through this territory in order to avoid the hassles of the law.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:55 am

Salamat po sa mga clarification.

Kung mi OEC di na po haharangin ng IM kahit sasabihin mong mi employer kana sa UAE na naghihintay? hmmmm ang tagal kasi ng processing ng EOC na yan.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:23 am

basta may OEC - wala kang problema. Without it - you will be stopped by the Immigration officer from leaving the country,

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:36 am

Salamat po v_wrangler.

So OEC is a must po pala talaga sa Philippine Immigration.It will take a month pa po kasi to secure OEC and they (company ) need me ASAP na.
Mi nag advice po d2...pwede daw po sa UAE ko na lang e-process yan.Baka sa renewal cguro. I will take your advice Sir.Salamat po ng marami.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:38 am

sir em t eto po ang ibig sabihin ng OEC

Overseas Employment Certificate

What is an OEC?

An overseas employment certificate (OEC), is a requirement under POEA Rules and Regulaitons to help ensure that Filipino overseas workers (OFWs) are properly documented and protected.

Only OFWs are required to get an OEC. In this case, OFWs would include: work permit holders such as domestic helpers, etc. as well as S-pass and E-pass holders. PRs, EPEC holders and OJTs are not required to get OECs.

Used OEC, whether regular or multiple, is a requirement to be submitted to the Department of Tourism to avail travel tax reduction for OFW dependents.

so dapat may contract ka na or work pass bgo ka kumuha nito.. kaya sa tingin ko di ka puede dito.. OWWA clearance lang ang kailanagn mo kunin para maka-exit ka ng pinas.. pero dadaan ka pa sa mga etc. na seminar or training.. laking abala nyan..

sir.. silvercrown oo nga may silbi din.. if may mangyari sayo at least insured ka ng government sa pinas... pero yung dental at medical di ko pa ata nabasa yan.. may patunay ka ba sir.. para malaman naman ng ibang OFW na kasama natin dito at magamit yang benefits na yan..
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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:47 am

Professional po ang trabaho ko sa UAE.

Akala ko OEC is Overseas Exit Clearance yan? in doubt na tuloy ako.Sa OWWA naman ngayun?

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:51 am

em_t wrote:Professional po ang trabaho ko sa UAE.
Akala ko OEC is Overseas Exit Clearance yan? in doubt na tuloy ako.Sa OWWA naman ngayun?


oo sir.. professional yan.. basahin mo maigi.. professional lahat ang pinag-uusapan dito.. pero OFW ka pa din.. mapa-domestic helper or kagaya mo na professional..

eto.. Only OFWs are required to get an OEC. In this case, OFWs would include: work permit holders such as domestic helpers, etc. as well as S-pass and E-pass holders. PRs, EPEC holders and OJTs are not required to get OECs

tru Philippine embassy website ko po yan kinuha ang meaning..

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by em_t on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:53 am

Mi naka pagsabi din sa kin.Sa OWWA nga lang daw ang punta ko...doon sa NAIA or international airport na mi OWWA office and magbabayad ka lang ng 3,000.00 and it takes 1 to 2 hrs.lang daw kuha mo na ang OEC mo.Pag mi OEC ka na di na ako magbabayad ng terminal fee.

Yung POEA security measures nga lang ng OFW yan.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:56 am

Brod, maging manager ka man, katulong, engineer, doctor o kargador. IIsa lang ang tingin ng Philippine Government sa iyo - you are an OFW daw.

Tulad ng sabi ko - titingnan ng immgiration personnel sa NAIA ang iyong pasaporte. Pag may nakasaad doon ng permission to work (WORKING VISA) from another country and your ticket indicates you are going to that country, tecnically you become an OFW in their manuals. If you are a Pinoy going abroad to work - you will be required to go through the POEA PDOS (Pre-departure Orientations), Health Checks and owwa memberships - these will take at least a week in my experience.

Pag wala ka nyan, you will be turned down by the immgration because they will claim that your contract and the work conditions in the host country you intend to go to has not been thorighly checked by the POEA. In lay mans word - you haven't been milked yet bago ka pa man lang lumabas ng bansa.

Do not gamble going to the aiport without it. More or less - you will be turned away nasayang lang ang pagod mo.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:58 am

eto na lang ang magandang tip na ibibigay ko sayo na medyo legal at makakahinga ka ng maluwag sa exit mo sa pinas..

kung may kakilala ka sa UAE friend or kamag-anak. mag-pabili ka ng invitation letter sa UAE Philippine Embassy... tapos ipa-mail mo tru western union or any courier service na matulin mag-deliver., tapos yun na ipakita mo sa IO wala ng tanung yun. exit ka na agad.. tapos sa dubai immigration ipakita mo na lahat ng papeles mo.. tapos na.. ganun lang kadali...

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:59 am

You can of course argue that no citizen should be prevented from moving his arse whenever and wherever he wants to - but magsasayang kalang ng laway because the Immigration people were specifically intructed by your government to make money first from you before letting you fly free.

Thats a sad tale in disguise of caring for its laborers.

I have given up sponsoring pinoys in the past because of this sad sad rule.

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by natski08 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:02 am

em_t wrote:Mi naka pagsabi din sa kin.Sa OWWA nga lang daw ang punta ko...doon sa NAIA or international airport na mi OWWA office and magbabayad ka lang ng 3,000.00 and it takes 1 to 2 hrs.lang daw kuha mo na ang OEC mo.Pag mi OEC ka na di na ako magbabayad ng terminal fee.

Yung POEA security measures nga lang ng OFW yan.


sir.. di ka bibigyan nito ata.. kasi wala ka pa naman contract at work pass eh..

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Re: HELP! Philippine Immigration

Post by v_wrangler on Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:02 am

You have two options - you have to convince your employers to wait for you because thats how things run here.

Second, go on a trip to hongkong or singapore, have a few beers with natski and head to your final destination.

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